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Posted By:
The Fisher
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Msg 11 Posted: 12:06 PM 01/12/06 (CST)
Hey Lonewolf,

Well I went to the site of the discussion of this muskie on the Mankato Free Press website---and posted an opinion. I pushed the envelope a little in terms of comparison. A little "shock value" to get folks thinking. I feel strongly about the muskie fishery--and just because it is legal to kill the fish doesn't mean we should ---so for the "shock value" made the following post.

Posted January 12, 2006 09:27

That muskie will not be replaceable for 10-15 years. Not to mention that it is probably one of the only prolific spawners in that stretch of river. The article states how uncommon they are in those waters.

I can understand keeping a few smaller/slot walleyes/crappie to eat but I can't EVER see the justification to keep a fish from a fishery as fragile as the muskie fishery is where 1 ADULT FISH PER ACRE is considered prime muskie water.

It seems to be "ok" with lot's of folks to kill this fish because it is "legal". Well just because something is legal CERTAINLY DOES NOT mean it is right. Cases in point--the butchering of buffalo to the point of near extinction for just their hides or tongues WAS LEGAL, the killing of several pigeon species until they are now extinct WAS LEGAL. To show the lack of validity in the arguement of "It Was Legal" let us use even more extreme examples. The slaughter of the First Nations/Native Americans WAS LEGAL, the buying and selling of human beings as slaves in this country WAS LEGAL--for that matter Hitlers' genocide of a people group in the Holocaust WAS LEGAL IN GERMANY! Does anyone really think those things were "ok" just because they were legal?

I understand that the killing of this fish and some of the examples are not on the same plane in terms of impact to humanity--I just make the point that to say "it is legal" IN NO WAY justifies an action!

I am sure this lady has no idea the damage done to a fishery as fragile as muskie fisheries by taking just a few large spawning females. I bet she was also happy that if this fish was caught and released before that those other folks were knowledgeable enough to release her and not kill her.

We require hunter safety courses before allowing a person to gun hunt. Maybe it's time we had fishing safety courses that required a certain level of knowledge before someone is issued a license and allowed to take the precious natural resources we have.

It is a little irksome to a guy to catch numerous large muskies, handle them properly, and release them to then watch someone else reap the benefit of your action by catching that same fish and then they kill it. Not only does that fish die but all the offspring it would produce are gone as well.

IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST KEEP A FEW TO EAT--then keep a few small/slot walleyes, small/slot pike, crappie or sunnies, and let the rest go. For the sake of quality fisheries I would plead for folks to also PLEASE RELEASE ALL MUSKIES AND SMALLMOUTH.


JUST BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN ITS RIGHT. How about we get less selfish and more conservation minded---or is that to big a step to ask of Minnesotans' now days?

The Guardian


Now this evidently is not a viewed shared and I am seen as a narrow minded person as the response from NKatoWebGuy (The moderator I think) was ..
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Posted January 12, 2006 10:29

"How bout you become more open minded that each of us is a person and stop shoving your rants down our throat? She caught a nice fish and kept it. Get over it! "

So, I suppose the response given me by their moderator let's me know that the old addage is true.."When they can't stand up to the truth of the message then they attack the messenger" At least that's how my "narrow mind" sees it.

What do ya Think?

Jason "The Fisher" Pence

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Lonewolf
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Msg 12 Posted: 02:13 PM 01/12/06 (CST)
Hey WebDude,
I don't mind at all. Thanks!!
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Lonewolf
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Msg 13 Posted: 02:26 PM 01/12/06 (CST)
Hey Jason,
Thanks for posting your comments on the other website. I don't think your the narrow minded one. The others are. It's really nice to see that I'm not the only one that thinks that way. I'm a hard core muskie fisherman. I release all muskies that I catch. Even if I am lucky enough to catch a state record or world record muskie, it's getting photographed and then released back into the water. I will not kill one of these wonderful fish. It takes too long to grow a trophy muskie. Why not release them back so someone else can share the experience someday? As far as other species of fish go, I release 99.9% of them. I only keep a few crappies or walleyes a year. Mostly in the winter when I'm icefishing. I don't keep any of the bigger females and I have my own personal size limit. I want to thank you again for your post on the other website. Maybe your post will open the eyes of these "narrow minded" people.

Thanks Again,
Todd
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CrappieKeith
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Msg 14 Posted: 09:59 AM 05/25/06 (CST)
I am with you guys on releasing most of what you get. I am 45 and when I was 10 I'd see all kinds of 20 lb.pike barrels full of 8-10 walleyes. Now, it is tough to find that quality fish that is also a breeder.
I have seen in the past 5 years, whispering went from every crappie is over 11" to were are they. The jig is responsible for some ,but it gets alot of pressure.Big pike are gone ,monster bass & walleyes too.
The state did a good thing for walleyes. Anything over 20" has to go back save for 1.
If you knew what a graphite mount looked like you would not kill the fish for the wall.Take a photo,get some measurements quickly and release it to live & procreate.
It all starts with teaching our young that it is ok to release & that they will get more than ever if they do this. You may be right about getting adults educated. I see nice fish all of the time so it is easier for me to toss them back ,but when you have the weekend warrior who does not see many fish get the big one it is too hard for them to release.
I have a personal slot limit on eyes. Anything over 18" goes back.If your out to get dinner there is nothing better than the 16-18 inchers & once you see how muddy tasting the bigger one taste then it should get easier to release those breeders.
It is 1 guy at a time for me in this teaching process & I hope I am making a difference in our fisheries.
Just like pyrimid marketing,I teach 5 guys and they each teach 5 guys and they each teach 5 guys. I am seeing more CPR ,but it is to few a fisherman that will .Lets all take it upon ourselves to be good students and teachers so that our kids will have something as they grow up and maybe,just maybe their kids will have a great fishery too.




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Msg 15 Posted: 01:19 PM 06/21/06 (CST)
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T-Bone
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Msg 16 Posted: 10:25 PM 04/29/08 (CST)
thats ridiculous. how could you kill such a beautiful fish!!



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T-Bone
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Msg 17 Posted: 10:25 PM 04/29/08 (CST)
thats ridiculous. how could you kill such a beautiful fish!!



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Grum
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Msg 18 Posted: 11:10 PM 04/29/08 (CST)
Education encompasses everything great about fishing, for me anyways, learning about new fisheries and techniques. I agree with letting others know about how very important it is to us that we all work together to have great fisheries. but keep in mind, it is easier to learn from someone smiling, then someone yelling. Many hands make light work. Thats what I like so much about this web-site, lots to learn from each other. (if you ever see me keeping smallies or musky, call for HELP, i am lost, starving, suffering from loss of faculties & in need of rescue!)


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DAO
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Msg 19 Posted: 02:57 PM 05/01/08 (CST)
Nice fish. I would not have kept it myself but the lady can do what she wants with her fish. What I would like to see though is that everyone that thinks that fish should have been released go to the MN DNR website and ask them to fully implament the new Long Range Muskie/ Northern Plan. That is a better way to save the resource for future generations (then berating one lady for keeping one fish). A properly managed resource should be able to handle some harvest. A plan such as the one they have come up with will save a lot of northerns and muskie. Believe it or not there is opposition to this plan by people that want to deplete the resource for their own personal gratification. All conservation minded anglers should contact the DNR, read the plan, comment on it and tell them you support it.
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JCU
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Msg 20 Posted: 01:43 PM 05/04/08 (CST)
I totally agree with DAO the DNR needs to hear your thoughts on protection of our resource, and the apparent movement to destroy your Pike and Muskie fishery, it's not a joke and it wont go away, there are some very selfish individuals out to stop this plan, boy I wish she would have let that one swim, BTW when did she catch it ????.



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