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Daily Subscription Msg 41 Posted: 02:25 PM 09/10/07 (CST)
well. no fish i agreed with you in another post .but i don't agree with you here .even though i'm a dem i want my right to firearms.and i will tell you it will never be taken away . ( in my life time). in iowa we have a handgun season for deer, and i go every year!they will have to pry it from my cold dead hands! ha!ha!ha!
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Daily Subscription Msg 42 Posted: 02:41 PM 09/10/07 (CST)
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Daily Subscription Msg 43 Posted: 03:08 PM 09/10/07 (CST)
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Daily Subscription Msg 44 Posted: 11:52 PM 09/14/07 (CST)
Well if thay take my guns away. You will see me on the news. Ill be the only kid out there protesting.


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and got 4 dogs smile smiley wink smiley and my guns stay on my wall. Enless friends come over or very young kids. so it would take me 5secs to get my gun. lol


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Daily Subscription Msg 45 Posted: 11:51 AM 09/25/07 (CST)
People carry hand guns for protection but studies have proven that most people who own hand guns for protection are most often killed by their own guns. And if hand guns were banned what would you need protection from?

Just because guns are band doesn't mean that there aren't illegal ones traveling the streets. And, the idea that all guns were at one point legal - well- that is not true. Guns have been smuggled into this country, shich would mean that they are unregistered in the USA, and can be passed around or stolen with no accountability. Why would you want to punish the responsible adults who enjoy the sport of collecting and shutting (in the approriate locations)guns. It is the people with access to illegal guns (that we can't control) that will continue to be the problem...and banning hand guns will not change the number of murders committed (and could be argued this number could get bigger) by people who posses them illegally.
I have several family members who own guns and handle them properly (i.e. disarm them, and store them in a locked safe, they are registered and check when purchase are made) that will bear the brunt of a bann, and could still be shot by an intruder who may be in possesion of a gun illegally.

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Daily Subscription Msg 46 Posted: 01:25 PM 09/25/07 (CST)
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Daily Subscription Msg 47 Posted: 11:11 AM 10/01/07 (CST)
Some good posts and thoughts on this thread..especially early on.

Everybody has kept it pretty civil..good job guys!

There are a few good thoughts on this..some were touched on earlier.

1. Before we disarm honest law abiding citizens how does anyone propose to end criminal ownership of handguns? If only they have them then haven't those saying they desire to protect us by taking our handguns actually sent us out as sheep among the wolves?

2. Many counties..and a few states, have reistituted right to carry/and carry concealed weapons laws. This allows for people to carry, and in some instances carry concealed handguns. Interestly..those areas where now allow carrying handguns openly and/or concealed have actually seen drops in violent crimes. You would be justified to think that a criminal might just reconsider committing a crime if he thought the intended victim might draw and fire on him. As for me, if some guy were thinking of abducting my wife or daughter then I take comfort in the fact that they can shoot the center out of a target...the criminals head is no problem!

3. I enjoy plain old target practice with a handgun. It is fun and enjoyable. A nice way to spend a Saturday with the family.

4. It feels a great deal safer to have me with a gun than just the criminal with a gun.

5. It has been stated that some folks are killed with their own guns. I have a question..would you have felt better if they were killed with someone elses gun...say the criminals? Would you feel better if they had been knifed or bashed with a club?
A WORD ON THAT--- most of the folks that were killed with their own gun had the gun taken from them and then used on them. This is a valid concern---they might have been killed in another way anyway..but to have a gun taken from you and used on you reminds me of something. My grandfather was a Sheriff for many years. He always taught us to NEVER pull a gun on a person UNLESS it was absolutely necessary to protect home, life, or family. BUT IF WE DID have to pull it under those circumstances then to pull it and immediately empty every shell into the criminal. What has happend is folks pulled a handgun and said, "Now stop or I'll shoot'' the criminal said "NO" and went for the gun...the person who pulled the gun NEVER INTENDED TO ACTUALLY SHOOT THE CRIMINAL..JUST TO SCARE THEM ..so when they did not shoot they lost their firearm to the criminal. I would agree with my grandfather..do not pull a handgun unless defense of life, family, or home gives you no alternative..but if it is serious enough to pull a firearm then shoot immediately and continue untill the criminal is down and dead and your firearm empty of shells...the criminal thus dying from a severe case of lead poisoning!

Good and timely discussion guys...keep it coming!
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Daily Subscription Msg 48 Posted: 11:59 AM 10/02/07 (CST)
There are a few incontrovertible truths that have to be accepted, before any rational discussion of gun control can begin.

1st, there is no evidence that the presence of guns makes someone who is not prone to violence more likely to become violent, or someone who is not prone to irresponsible behavior more likely to engage in irresponsible behavior.

2nd, firearms are by far the most effective form of self-defense against attack that is available. Those who resist violent crime with a firearm are less likely to be victimized, and less likely to be injured, than those who do not resist, or those who resist with less effective means. The difference is greater for women than for men, which suggests that the weaker the victim, the greater the relative protection offered by a firearm. And not only are firearms capable of being used for self-defense, they are so used at least several hundred thousand times a year.

3rd, there's an almost perfect inverse correlation between those who will obey gun control laws and those who are causing our problems with guns. Ban guns, and the decent, law-abiding people - whose guns constitute no social problem whatsoever - will comply. The violent and irresponsible will not. The result of gun bans has always been exactly what we've always predicted - the ordinary people are rendered defenseless, but the criminals are still armed.

4th, gun control measures imposed on ordinary, law-abiding citizens, do nothing to reduce crime or violence. Laws targeting criminals _can_ help, if they're actually enforced. We have laws setting mandatory five-year sentences for felons caught in possession of firearms. Where these laws have been enforced - where criminals caught with guns have actually been put in jail - crime has gone down. Sometimes dramatically. But laws making it illegal for a nurse working third-shift in an inner city hospital to carry a gun while she makes that long, lonely walk out to the parking lot, do not make society safer, and make her far less safe.

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Daily Subscription Msg 49 Posted: 12:05 PM 10/02/07 (CST)
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Daily Subscription Msg 50 Posted: 12:11 PM 10/02/07 (CST)
Hey jcdege,

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You are very articulate in your points and I agree 100 percent. Law abiding citizens are just that... law abiding. All the legislation in the world will not make an outlaw decide to suddenly put away his gun. What we need is strict enforcement of any illegal activities associated with guns. And when the perp is nailed and convicted, put them away.

Period!



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