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Daily Subscription Msg 131 Posted: 07:09 PM 11/13/07 (CST)
First of all, It was a mis-spelled word, BIG DEAL MR. SPELL CHECK!

Yes, hunting from a road being drunk is wrong, i agree with ya there!
I guess I did not read further in your post, MY BAD!

And yes I have seen the movie Braveheart, but you know what, he would not surrender becuase he was dealing with war, not about hunting issues!

Yes I most certainly have heard some of Vince Lobardi's, did I spell that right, yeah, quotes! Awesome coach!

But he was dealing with football, you dont give up in football! Yet again, he was not dealing with opinions on hunting!

I never did play football cause my school didn't have it! I played baseball and our team kicked butt each year! Our coach made us tough, if we said "I don't wanna do this", we had to run laps, THE WHOLE TEAM!

Do you know one of the main reasons people dont hunt anymore? Because dads are not taking their children out hunting! Pretty sad! and thus for, children are not passing down that tradition to their children!

You can not take my rights away as a hunter! You may have banned fox hunting in Britain, but this is the U.S. and we have a constitution that allows us to hunt and have weapons! There is a higher population of hunters in America than in Britain! Where did you get hunting banned? California? laugh smiley smile smiley

Yes I do get Cocky from time to time! Thats expected in a teenager grin smiley

Oh by the way! You can ask my teacher, but im not the best of spellers! blush smiley I'm better at Science and History and reading!

Some arguments your correct on and others not so much, in my opinion anyways!

Lets get off on ALL the topics we have just discussed and let me ask you one question I REALLY want you to reply!

Surfs-up! Do you believe in God? Jesus?


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Daily Subscription Msg 132 Posted: 07:47 PM 11/13/07 (CST)
Please take a few minutes to read. I know its long, but read through it all, dont glance at it! I aggre with this guy 110 percent!

Why Hunt?
Many of us have been asked to put into words the reasons why we hunt. The problem is, the reasons and motivations that compel me and many others to hunt are pretty hard to put into print. This is my first attempt at explaining what drives me to head into the woods each hunting season.

What leaps to mind is a quote from my father. Someone had asked him why he loved to hunt so much; what was so great about being in the woods. His reply was, "If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand." This really sums up the feeling many of us have. A recent ad in several hunting magazines shows a fellow festooned in camoflage, with the caption "You can't explain it. But nothing would keep you from it." Our lack of eloquence on this subject is a major factor in the "bunny-huggers'" fight against our rights. The vast majority of our populace is open to suggestion on the topic of hunting, and could take it or leave it. The very fact that the anti-hunting crowd often makes their claims public, with little or no rebuttal from us hunters, will sway many of these neutral folks. It's really a debate with one vocal participant, and the claims made, while illogical and faulty, are the only thoughts to ever reach many of these non-hunters. I believe it's time we delved into ourselves and offered our thoughts, however abstract, to the non-hunting public for their consideration.

I started going to the woods with Dad when I was very young. I don't really remember when I first went, but when I was nine, I got to go on a few hunting trips with him and follow him through the woods. He wisely kept these trips varied, and limited the time we spent on any one thing, as my attention span was fairly short. By the time I was eleven, I got to carry an old heirloom .410 double-barrel shotgun, with the action broken open. If I was to spot some game, then by his permission, I could close the gun and shoot. Soon I was allowed to wander the woods on my own for short times, still following his rule of keeping the gun broken. It was at this time that the hunting seed really began to grow in me. There's just no way to adequately portray the majesty of a forest and the creatures within, when you feel like the only man who's ever stood where you stand. It doesn't matter that you're walking on a well-worn trail, and that you spy spent shotgun shells alongside it from time to time. You feel all alone, at peace, fully alert, ready for anything. I never feel closer to God than I do when I walk in the woods, his most wondrous creations all around me, with the challenge of outwitting them on their own terms in front of me.

The hunting instinct is one of the most basic instincts of mankind. After all, we are the ultimate predator. Take a look at "prey" animals. Their eyes are usually on the sides of their heads, affording a wider field of view. They lose some depth perception with this arrangement, but it helps them survive. Predators, on the other hand, characteristically have their eyes set close together, very useful for estimating the distance between he and his target. Beyond this, the urge to kill lies within us all, especially as children. Without proper channelling of these instincts, children often grow into physically abusive and/or murderous adults. Can any of us honestly say that, as kids, we didn't shoot birds with our slingshots and bb guns, or set homemade traps for other critters? I say that if you can say that, then you either never had an opportunity as a child, or you're an exception to the rule of human nature.

( Me talking) READ THIS!!!!!!!

The kill is the fulfillment of the hunt. We hunt to be alone, to observe wildlife without being observed ourselves, to face one of the greatest challenges in this world: to take a wild animal on his own turf, using our brain and little else. Forget the wild tales you may have heard about "automatic" guns and telescopic sites. When it comes right down to it, those things are no good unless you can create an opportunity to use them. We don't swagger into the woods and slay Bambi when he meekly peeks from behind a tree. We have to use every sense, every bit of experience we have, and when we accomplish our goal, it's a milestone. I once watched a videotape on hunting that theorized that, on the average, if you are hunting and get a chance at a deer, that chance will last 7 seconds. In my experience, that's not far off. Sometimes you'll have longer, sometimes not that long, but 7 seconds is just about average. Think of what it takes to be alert and ready, and to make an honest, clean shot on an animal that always believes there's danger behind every tree! In those 7 seconds you must verify that it is, indeed, a legal animal, find a chance to shoot (not easy when you're in brushy country), and you must usually remain undetected by those roving eyes and swivelling ears. What a high! The adrenalin rush I get from it is like nothing else in this world. The fulfillment of long hard hours of hunting is definitely worth it!

(Me talking) OH THIS IS AWESOME!!!! THIS SUMS IT UP!!!!

I read a quote from a famous writer once, though I can't recall his name. The quote went something like this: "We do not go hunting to kill. We kill in order to have gone hunting." Without the kill, you aren't hunting. That doesn't mean that you have to kill every legal animal you see, but hunting is not hunting if you're not there to kill. But to return to the quote, one does not go hunting expressly for that purpose. Hunting is freedom, a tie to our ancestors, peace, contentment, happiness, joy, sweat, close calls, exploring, hiking, stealth, boring, exhilarating, tiring, satisfying, challenging, and a thousand other things. It's there for you to discover, and judge for yourself if you want to take part in it. But please, "don't knock it until you've tried it." That's the only way you'll ever know for sure.

- Russ Chastain

Surfs-up! I still want you to reply to my past question! Do you believe in God and Jesus and the bible?
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Daily Subscription Msg 133 Posted: 08:07 PM 11/13/07 (CST)
This is my quote!

"What better way of connecting with your dad than out in the woods! Think about it! Talking to your dad over a cup Coffe at Mcdonalds is not really connecting! Its only after a special moment in life with your father that I have ever connected with him, and that was my first kill! Not because I killed the animal or I made a good shot, but knowing that I have the confidence to do great things in life, whether it be president of the United States or a doctor, seeing my dads smile tells me that he knows that as well as I do!"

Hunting has given me confidence in life, don't ask why! But just like in highschool, when you were an awesome football or baseball or even a great basketball player! Did that not give you confidence and hope in life! Hope for better and bigger things!
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Daily Subscription Msg 134 Posted: 06:59 PM 11/14/07 (CST)
Blah,blah,blah, Got four on Sunday Morning, Had them for dinner
tonight, much better then Chicken, Now it was early, I was on foot,
I use a single shot 410, I have no dog, Fair or unfair, You can say
what you want, I've been hunting for Grouse 25+ years, This started
as a simple thing, It's gone out of control everyone is welcome to
there opinion, But the fact is, this is a fishing board, which
most of us here are sportsmen(non-gender!!) if you don't fish and
hunt your just here to stir the pot, you can be here but your
opinion really does not matter to me, I'm going to still fish and
hunt! Chef
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Daily Subscription Msg 135 Posted: 01:52 PM 11/20/07 (CST)
A bit long "8 pages" but a good read none the less.


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Daily Subscription Msg 136 Posted: 07:47 AM 11/21/07 (CST)
PB,
Thanks for the link to the article, it looks like a good one.


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Daily Subscription Msg 137 Posted: 12:28 PM 11/21/07 (CST)


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Daily Subscription Msg 138 Posted: 06:52 PM 11/28/07 (CST)
What happened surfs-up? Where did you go? I ask a couple questions, and your gone for a little over two weeks? Are you busy or does the cat have your tongue?
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Daily Subscription Msg 139 Posted: 11:18 PM 12/21/07 (CST)
Why do you all waste time trying to defend why you hunt to someone who does not hunt and will not understand why you do. He is just trying to get you going and could really care less. Some people like to hunt and some don't. Both should respect the decision of the other. If "Surfs Up" has a problem with it, he should shut up and eat a salad and spend his money on video games or something. Why should it make a difference to him how others spend their money or what they like to eat. Hunters and fisherman are good for the economy. Is he? Hunt...fish...BE PROUD you do!!!
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Daily Subscription Msg 140 Posted: 08:19 AM 01/21/08 (CST)
Hunter Fisher...

First of all welcome to My Fishing Pals.

Secondly...It is my humble opinion that you should read what someone has actually written before launching into a blanket barrage of condemnation about them that is filled with inflamatory verbage.

For example, you state, "Why do you all waste time trying to defend why you hunt to someone who does not hunt and will not understand why you do". If you had taken the time to actually read the posts and history in this thread you would see that I indeed was a hunter for many years. It is the fact that I DO TOTALLY understand the hunting side of the argument that makes my point. I was finally HONEST about the reasons I, and others, hunted and killed. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND why you hunt. However, it seems clear to me that YOU really do not understand why you hunt. That has been the point of discussion. I would think anyone with even remotely open minds would welcome that discussion. I still am an avid fisherman..again, the reasons behind why a PETA and Sierra Club member is at ease with fishing are detailed in the thread. It would be nice if you would read the messages BEFORE you spout things that are contradictory to what is clearly posted already. IMHO.

You further state, "He is just trying to get you going and could really care less". I have not tried to "get you" (or anyone) going. I have tried to engage in a civil discussion of the facts. You are the one who just threw accusations about me...who is really tryng to get who going here HF?

You again state, "Some people like to hunt and some don't. Both should respect the decision of the other". Well your first statement is an unargueable self evident truth. However, the second is a bit less solid in its thought process. There are folks who choose to abuse children..I DO NOT believe their decision deserves respect. In the case of hunting...hunting has to me obviously flawed belief systems. I do not respect the decison to hunt and kill those animals. The decision to hunt and kill is a wrong decison from my perspective..the same as spousal abuse, child abuse, bank robbery, etc. etc.

And again you state, "If "Surfs Up" has a problem with it, he should shut up and eat a salad and spend his money on video games or something". WOW Hunter Fisher...that is quite a mouthful. In one sentence you seek to take one of the rights guaranteed to me in the Bill of Rights. The Constitution of the United States has an Amendment in the Bill of Rights that guarantees the right of free speech. It is allowed in our country to voice an opinion that is contrary to yours. It seems that does ruffle your feathers.

Hunter Fisher..may I make a few well intentioned and humble suggestions? In the words of Lynyrd Skynyrd..I know you don't know me but I wish you would let me ask one favor from you..(from Gimme Three Steps)..Hunter Fisher, I would welcome the opportunity to hear any well reasoned and thoughtful reasons you have to continue hunting. I only ask the same courtesy from you in honestly considering the reasons I have given for hunting to be banned. I indeed will practice the golden rule and treat you the way I wish to be treated..with dignity and respect. I would only ask that same treatment from you if possible instead of simply throwing out a bunch of name calling. Many of the reasons for hunting have been addressed in this thread previously..they may already be answered.

In particular Hunter Fisher...why don't you read messages 52, 72, 73, 75, and 80. No hunters have yet seemed willing to address the issues that most clearly show the lack of any need to hunt.

Lastly you state, "Hunters and fisherman are good for the economy". I believe those issues were addressed in the posts...however, if you feel they are insufficently tackled then I will be glad to expand you vision and give more detail. I would also add that greed is a poor reason to give for killing. IMHO. There are ways to make a good deal more money by stopping the killing..however..what does it really say about someone who says that one of the main reason to keep the killing allowed is that folks will pay enough money just to kill that it will affect local economies??? Sounds a little sick doesn't it.

Well Hunter Fisher...reply in a civil tone I would love to have a real nice discussion with you!

Have a great Day!

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