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Daily Subscription Msg 11 Posted: 02:37 PM 02/08/12 (CST)
Shouldn't this also be addressed civilly through the courts? A few large publicized jury awards for deprivation of property, companionship, etc could help persuade some of the traditionalist trappers.
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Daily Subscription Msg 12 Posted: 08:11 PM 02/08/12 (CST)
I've been thinking about that route too. I think a good lawyer could argue that they are conducting business in a reckless manner and even though it's legal to set those traps on the ground by baiting them and placing them where they catch dogs they might be financially liable.

Just like driving is legal but if you drive recklessly you are liable.

Maryland holds trappers accountable for killing dogs.
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Daily Subscription Msg 13 Posted: 06:46 AM 03/09/12 (CST)
Representative Denny McNamara just authored an amendment that would make it legal to set a 330 conibear on land baited with meat. He is claiming that this will save dogs lives.

Senator John Carlson introduced an identical amendment in the senate environment committee but changed it to only add token regulations to 220's.

Here's a Youtube of a dog getting into a conibear box with the restrictions in the Carlson and McNamara amendments. Clearly they don't do anything to stop a hunting dog from reaching the trap.


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Daily Subscription Msg 14 Posted: 07:50 PM 03/09/12 (CST)
Here's the Youtube link I hope.

Video

Carlson is still claiming that his bill will "eliminate" killing dogs. As you can see it won't even reduce the number of dogs killed each trapping season.

Fixed the link for you - Nofishfisherman
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Daily Subscription Msg 15 Posted: 07:02 AM 03/16/12 (CST)
Here are links to a few of the videos that we made showing that the proposed restrictions won't stop dogs from reaching the trigger of body grip traps.

Here's a pole set that trappers in Maine use to catch lots of fisher, marten and coon. They catch 5x as many fisher and coon as MN trappers without catching any dogs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jloWqzmcXRs
Here's a cubby with a 16" recess (trap setback). The proposed setback is 7" or less than 1/2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kco1ZAUzrg

Here's the result of a poorly written bill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIHfvspAmQ - fixed links - WebDude
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Daily Subscription Msg 16 Posted: 07:48 PM 04/13/12 (CST)
We have several videos that show how ineffective the MN Trappers Association "restrictions" are at preventing dogs from dying in body grip traps set according to the MTA bill language.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SafeDogMN - fixed link - WebDude

There is no excuse other than laziness on the part of trappers who don't want to have to check their traps daily for killing our hunting dogs. None at all.

Senator Wiger (sen.chuck.wiger@senate.mn) is going to try to introduce an amendment to protect our dogs. I doubt the GOP controlled Senate will allow it to pass just like they shot down the amendment in the House.

If you care about your dog NOW is the time to contact your senator and tell them you support reasonable restrictions on body grip traps and Senator Wiger's amendment is the ONLY language that will make that happen.
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Daily Subscription Msg 17 Posted: 08:24 PM 05/04/12 (CST)
Dayton signed the MTA bill into law. Now dozens of dogs will be killed again next trapping season. Watch the videos and you'll see that the MTA bill won't prevent our dogs from dying.

We're forming a group of dog owners from across the state. We've got trappers, hunters, dog trainers and regular dog owners who don't hunt in the group. Of those dog owners we've got people with tech savy and legal expertise.

In the next month or so we will be issuing press releases across the state to let hunters know we exist and are working to make the woods safe for dogs.

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Daily Subscription Msg 18 Posted: 10:00 PM 07/10/12 (CST)
We've formed the new group and here's our website.

http://doglovers4safetrappingmn.org - fixed link - WebDude

We are also going to have a booth at the Game Fair in August.
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Daily Subscription Msg 19 Posted: 07:08 AM 07/13/12 (CST)
Thanks Webdude. I can never get the link to work.
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Daily Subscription Msg 20 Posted: 06:29 PM 10/26/12 (CST)
It took less that 24 hours for trappers using body grip traps to kill the first dog of the season and to prove that the MTA reps were being dishonest when they told legislators that the so-called restrictions would protect dogs.

Here's how you can test the MN Trappers Association bill restrictions that they claimed with a straight face would protect dogs.

Place a hot dog 7" under your car.

Place a hot dog 3' off the ground.

Watch to see if your dog runs through the grass with it's nose down.

If your dog can do any of those 3 things it can be killed in a so-called dog proof set.

If the MTA tells you anything about how they are concerned about dogs dying in body grip traps turn and walk away.
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