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Scumfrog
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Daily Subscription Msg 11 Posted: 01:48 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
it could happen.
when i lived in west st. paul the liquor store a block away from my house got robbed and they shot the guy in the face then the robber tryed to hide in some ones house. lucky for him it wasn't mine or he would have gotten shot by me. i asked the cop that was out in front of my house if i needed to get my gun out, he told me to do what i thought was right. i didn't get my gun out but i did keep an eye out for the guy. they found him and he's in jail now. and i don't live there any more....



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Daily Subscription Msg 12 Posted: 03:36 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
Good grief...the willingness of those in the hunting community to defend a blatant falsewhood (we called it a lie down on the farm) is simply unbelievable!

Sand Burr asked: Could it happen surf? Could it happen to you?
I respond: If you are asking if a family member of mine could one day face a home intruder..the answer is of course it's possible.

Sand Burr Further Asked :What would you and your children do?
I Respond: Shoot the intruder with a shotgun. Preferably one that handles magnum 3 1/2 inch loads. After he is down then empty the remaining shells into his head at point blank range.

Did you not read my opening qualifying statement? Please reread my original post. CAREFULLY notice ALL the words this time and you will see that I stated, "I am all in favor of private gun ownership and self protection". I whole heartedly mean that. I own several rifles, shotguns, handguns, and a couple of compound bows. I use them all regularly on the target range, shooting clay targets, or just cans off the fence.

THE ISSUE I RAISED HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SELF PROTECTION!!

I ONLY SHOWED PROOF THAT THAT ORIGINAL POST BY SCUMFROG WAS A LIE. IT WAS TOTALLY FABRICATED AND NEVER HAPPENED!!

The hunting community normally does that. They make up a total fabrication and falsehood then use that fabricated lie to justify their positions. It becomes apparent that in the total abscence of ways to justify their murderous rampage on animals they make up falsehoods to cover up the truths of it.

SCUMFROG has given us a perfect example. He posted a story that was a fabricated lie. Now, if perhaps he had simply made a mistake all might be forgotten...but alas that is not how the hunting community works. When I provided the proof that his story was untrue rather than being a man, standing on his own two feet, taking responsibility for his actions, and saying, "I was wrong about that..sorry guys", Scumfrog chose to do the opposite and justify his falsehood!

When shown it was a lie Scumfrog Stated:Who cares, it still makes a good story.
Well, well, well....see how obvious it is. He is caught in a falsehood and rather than taking responsibility he asks who cares and says it is a great story. The hunting community talks a good game concerning personal responsibility....however, as scumfrog shows it rarely ever delivers any responsible folks to the table.

Scumfrog further stated about his falsehood: "it also shows that kids can handle guns if properly trained."
I Respond: Eau Contraire scummy one. The story NEVER HAPPENED!! It shows nothing except that you tell untrue things to paint a point of view and then when called on it you are lacking the manhood to accept responsibility for your actions...typical. No wonder the hunting rights groups are getting their hineys handed to them...with guys like scummy speaking for you there is no one who can view you as speaking with any credibility.

The following is from a "dictionary". It is a book about words and their meanings. Those of you north of Brainerd should go buy one and try to read it. It will change your life....well, at least change your literacy rate.

SCUM. extraneous matter or impurities risen to or formed on the surface of a liquid often as a foul or filthy covering.

Wow...after the display on this thread by scumfrog I would have to say that by definition more true words were never spoken!

Get The Board,

SurfsUp
daninthewoods
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Daily Subscription Msg 13 Posted: 04:37 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
I really, really, really, really hate to admit this, but I gotta agree with surfsup. People need to check their facts before they post something as the truth. Though the internet is a great way to get secondary information that the media does not report, it also often turns out that that is because the story is distorted or a plain fabrication, lie, falsehood etc. etc.

I hate lies spead on the internet and I never post or pass on something I haven't run a truth check on. www.snopes.com is an excellent way to check something out. I recommend more people use it.

It was a great story, unfortunately it is only a fictitious story.

Oh by the way Surfsup, it isn't just the hunting community that passes on all sorts of lies and falsehoods via the internet, can't count the political lies i have seen. It happens in all sectors of the population. People are just to lazy to check the facts or they simply don't care if it is true if it supports their views. I am sure there are even some vegitarians who spread falsehoods.



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Daily Subscription Msg 14 Posted: 06:53 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
I'll have to agree with Surf on this one as well. THe original purpose of the post was to call out the media for not running with a positive story regarding gun ownership and the ability to protect yourself.

However can you blame the media for passing over a story is not true? Afterall they are required to report the facts, not a half baked story that never happened.


Scumfrog, when you state "who cares" when you found the story was false, I would think that you would care since you used the story to support your argument against the media for not running certain types of stories.

Really there is nothing to debate here. Everyone so far agrees regarding gun rights and the right to defend yourself so there is no issue there. And now that the story is been proven false there really isn't anything else to debate about. The media didn't run the story becuase it wasn't real so you can't blame them for that.

What else is there left to debate about in this thread? Nothing that I can see.


I do have on additional question though for Surfy...

Why own all those guns if you don't hunt? Seems to me a gun is a tool and only has one purpose, why not put that tool to work and bring home dinner?



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Daily Subscription Msg 15 Posted: 07:22 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
OK OK OK Lies Lies and more Lies we get the point.
Give me a break it was an election year!

Yes we hunters tend to "Get on board" with each other when opportunity strikes.

Nofish the debate is stll the statement surf loves to send out:
"The hunting community normally does that. They make up a total fabrication and falsehood then use that fabricated lie to justify their positions. It becomes apparent that in the total absence of ways to justify their murderous rampage on animals they make up falsehoods to cover up the truths of it."

We must be lying when they report:
Since 2004, Minnesota has had a policy whereby hunters could donate venison to food shelves and feeding programs. From 2004 through 2006, 1,200 deer were processed and distributed to charitable organizations through the efforts of volunteers including hunters, meat processors, community members, businesses and organizations.

Do you think the number of people looking for a meal in this economy has risen? Yes it has and that’s not a lie.


We must be making this up also:
The Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) is currently conducting a Statewide study to determine the concentration of PCBs, pesticides, and heavy metals in resident and migratory wildlife. The accumulation of contaminants in the tissues of animals can be used as an index to measure both the amount of environmental contamination and the potential hazard to these animals.

MPCA has appealed to the State's hunters and trappers for help in collecting wildlife specimens for the study. Those who volunteered to help were asked to register with the Agency's study coordinator and biologist, Keren Larson, who mails them instructions and materials.

"The response from the hunters and trappers was incredible," Larson said. She continued,

These people want to know what possible effects contaminants may have on these wildlife species. The first hunting season I asked for whole carcasses of pheasants. I had no idea what type of response I would get. Pheasant hunters in the State donated 108 pheasants that year! We have had cooperation from special interest groups such as Pheasants Forever, the Minnesota Trapper's Association, the Minnesota Deer Hunter's Association, State and Federal agencies such as the USFWS, MDNR, Wisconsin DNR, the Minnesota Department of Health, and the University of Minnesota. The broad response to our request for assistance will help us obtain an accurate Statewide sampling of these species in order to determine not only what contaminants are present and to what extreme, but also to evaluate the potential of contaminants limiting wildlife reproduction or survival.



Yes Surf here is another good example of us "band of ruthless brothers" getting together to help out the very environment you and I live in.

Respectfully disagreeing SAND BURR.




daninthewoods
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Daily Subscription Msg 16 Posted: 08:41 PM 01/19/09 (CST)
Burr, you got it right. There are plenty of good things to report that, hunters, trappers, and outdoor enthusiasts of all types do that are VERY positive. We simply don't need false stories spread as well. Our record stands on its own!!!



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Daily Subscription Msg 17 Posted: 10:15 AM 03/25/09 (CST)
Surf is a wanksta
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Daily Subscription Msg 18 Posted: 07:03 AM 03/26/09 (CST)
Reminds me of a time I was in a bar in Denver, the guy next to me leaned over and asked me "Do you want to hear a true story?" I replied back to him "A true story, in a bar? hell no!". We all had a good laugh and the bartender bought me a beer. And thats a true story. smile smiley


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