New poster, sorry if this is on the wrong place but here goes... I am buying a 16 foot fishing boat with trailer. 89 boat really nice. No motor, but only 150$!!! Problem is, guy I'm buying from only has a bill of sale from the previous owner. When he went to register it they told him it is titled and now it has to remain titled. He got sick of trying to get the title from the guy and is selling it. QUESTION: What kind of work-arounds are there for this problem? This has to be a pretty common thing. what are the options? I have heard transferring to WI and back but this seems ??? Any advice would be great. Thanks!
If you have a copy of the bill of sale you can go directly to the DNR and force the title transfer by explaining the situation. You might not get as lucky as I did because you will need someone at the office to work with you. Call directly to DNR. Boat is DNR Trailer is DMV.
I agree, take the bill of sale the seller had from when he bought the boat along with your bill of sale for your purchase of the boat and head to a DNR office or call them on the phone and see what you can do. If there is no physical title to be had any more there has to be a work around. There are so many old/salvaged boats out there that may have had a title at one time but due to time and circumstance the physical title is long lost between various owners. Its just a matter of finding someone at the DNR willing to put in the time to deal with it for you.
Make sure that you include any registration numbers or id numbers from the boat. They will likely want all of that info.
One last thing, make sure the boat wasn't reported stolen at some point. You never know it may have been stolen at some point either by the guy who is selling it to you or the guy that sold it to your seller. Might be way its missing the title.
Here's the thing. The guy I just bought it from has only a bill of sale, no title. he did give me the contact info for the title holder. At this point I'm going to do my best to contact the title holder and get him to get duplicate if he lost it and transfer it directly to me. Problem is, if he wont or cant do that, all I have is the bill of sale he gave to the guy i bought it from, and now I have that and a bill of sale that says I bought it from the second guy. So I have two bills of sale between connecting me to the boat. Not exactly what the DNR or DMV wants to see since the first sale was never legitimized... Guess I have to hope the original owner is cooperative.
I wouldn't put too much faith in the original seller to come through with a title long after he sold the boat. He's got no motivation as he already got his money.
Really the first sale should never have been completed without the title and subsequently your sale should never have been completed without the title.
If the original seller doesn't come up with the title your best bet is to get lucky with the right person at the DNR who is willing to work with you. I'm sure its not the first case like this to come up so there is probably a work around its just a matter of how painful it will be.
Even eminent chartered accountants are known, in their capacity as fishermen, blissfully to ignore differences between seven and ten inches, half a pound and two pounds, three fish and a dozen fish. ~ William Sherwood Fox, Silken Lines and Silver Hooks, 1954