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beardax2
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 02:24 PM 04/22/15 (CST)
Ladies and Gentleman; I have a question when are the sportsman (tax payers) going to question the DNR and their mismanagement of this great fishery? What am I talking about? I told the DNR in Aitkin two years ago that the brown cormorant was going to wipe out the fishery and what did they say, "What brown cormorant problem." The predator is basically destroying the lakes fishery and nothing from our all knowing government. I told them that they will stay at Mille Lacs until they have eaten every fish they can swallow, now I figure it isn't because the lake is for the dying middle class that their is no action, NO, that can't be it. I wonder what will happen when they destroy Mille Lacs and say move to Big Pelican Lake, now that's where the money is, I wonder if there will be any action then. Please comment, I love a good conversation.
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 02:29 PM 04/22/15 (CST)
Hey beardax2,

Welcome to My Fishing Pals. Glad to have you aboard!

I am going to have to move this to the controversial forum, if you don't mind. I will have some comments later.



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 07:39 PM 10/11/15 (CST)
Seems obvious to me that stocking walleyes will just be feeding the pike until the latter's numbers are substantially reduced. I'd like to see biblical precedent followed and millions of pounds of pike harvested, processed and given to churches to feed the poor. Dayton should have somebody at the DNR coordinate efforts between the tribes and fishing and religious organizations.
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 08:54 AM 10/12/15 (CST)
People have been questioning the DNR for a long time when it comes to Mille Lacs. Not paying close attention if you haven't heard it. Every fisherman seems to have it in his head that he KNOWS the exact issue causing the problems. Some think its 100% netting, some people think its the cormorants, some think its the pike, some people think its the small mouth bass, some people think its all the charter boats, some people think its the lack of forage, some people think its the poor slot management, and some people think its something else entirely.

Truth is its probably a combination of many of these factors. To say the entire lake has been brought to its current state only by cormorants is probably a little too simplistic. If the cormorants are eating every fish they see like you claim then you'd expect the populations of other species to be suffering as well but in this case the walleye are hurting and everything else is booming. I'm not on the lake enough to get a total picture of whats going on but I've never noticed any sort of large cormorant issue so I have a hard time pinning the entire problem on them.

Its a very big lake with a lot of factors at play. If it were a simple problem with only one cause I think it would have been fixed by now. The fact of the matter is its just not as simple as a lot of people think. There is no smoking gun in this case.


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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 11:09 PM 10/12/15 (CST)
There may be a lot of factors but some are obviously bigger factors than others and any fishing farmpond owner will tell you it's easy for predator-prey ratios to get out of balance. On our Iowa farmpond stocked with bluegills, bass and pike, sometimes we'd go from too many stunted bluegills to too many bass. We only had about fifteen pike, the biggest about 10 pounds, so they didn't tend to get out of balance like the others. Pike don't tend to reproduce in ponds but In lakes like Mille Lacs, the conditions are prime for pike and musky factories and that's what we've got.

According to David Orrick - "Hotter-than-average summers in recent years have led to die-offs of tullibees, or cisco, the bread-and-butter food of Mille Lacs predator fish, and biologists believe older walleyes are cannibalizing young walleyes at a higher rate than normal."

http://www.twincities.com/ci_22404617/dave-orrick-is-mille-lacs-out-balance
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 07:46 AM 10/13/15 (CST)
Can't figure out Odins stance on his two posts.
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 10:12 AM 10/13/15 (CST)
Seems clear that he believes the imbalanced predator to prey ratio is the main factor. With pike populations booming its probably a factor.

However I still think its only one piece the very large puzzle.

He mentioned lack of cisco and other forage, that is another piece of the puzzle which also ties into why the larger walleye are cannibalizing the smaller walleye.

The other factor that ties into this hit that the smaller walleye take is the slot limits and the desire to protect the larger fish. That means the large fish are protected so they can continue to eat the smaller walleye while the fisherman are also targeting those smaller walleye. It puts a lot of pressure on one or two year classes.

And of course there is the netting during spawn. And I guess a couple birds will eat some fish.


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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 11:57 AM 10/13/15 (CST)
Beardax, I'm not sure you've been reading the papers and paying attention to the internet but its full of people bitching?

Brown cormorant are problem, I think not. There is plenty more going wrong on the big pond other than birds.



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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 06:47 PM 10/13/15 (CST)
moderator: You hit the nail on the head. Lots of factors lead to the lakes demise. Eliminating all the pike won't help.
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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 10:42 PM 10/13/15 (CST)
If the DNR stocks walleyes without substantially reducing the number of pike, I think they should line the stocking areas with underwater cameras and record the results, although I can see why they wouldn't want to.
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