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rong56345
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 08:57 AM 12/22/13 (CST)
The DNR is thinking about opening bass season to a "catch and release" portion from the regular fishing opener til normal bass opener. This "catch and release" portion would last about two weeks until Memorial Day.
Wadda you think??
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 12:48 PM 12/22/13 (CST)
It's basically a PR stunt. It's no change from what's going on now. Fisherman catch and release bass in that time period already. The only "change" would be a technical one. You would be allowed to "target" these fish. The reality is these fish are already too easy to catch and are already being caught. Mostly by accident, but nevertheless caught.

I think the DNR is just trying to promote fishing and sell more licenses. Some folks will scream fowl because they think the fish on the beds should be left alone. But all the studies show that this is a non factor anyway, thus the proposal.
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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 09:29 AM 12/23/13 (CST)
I'm not so sure....Can you site me?? Curious to where you got your info.
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 11:39 AM 12/23/13 (CST)
Information on this is a plenty. Just Google it! Berkley has a nice article on it. But then again they support fishing. And I'm sure you can find just as many articles that will support the opposite view from other resources too. But lets skip all the "they say" and "but they say" stuff and just look at the obvious.

Almost all the states that have bass swimming in their waters have provisions to protect against harvest during spawning times. But they also have designated terms in their regulations that either allow or do not allow targeting these fish during this period. Whether you agree or disagree with the philosophy these DNR's want and need the dollars generated by the sale of licenses. And the states need the tourism dollars as well. And the sportsman want to stay in their home states as well. So the decision is an easy one for the politicians. Especially when they have a DNR employee standing their holding some study from somewhere.

From my personal experience. I have done some of this type of site fishing in Canada for Smallies. And yes, I was a bit conflicted at the time. But what I saw pretty much backed up the studies that supported this. After working pretty hard to catch one and then releasing it. They would just swim back to their bed and sit their again. Not looking any worse for the wear. But trust me when I say this, it's not as easy as you think it is! Just ask the trout fishermen.

Here in MN we usually don't get to do to much site fishing, or spot and stalk hunting. So it's a treat to able to do so. So I would support this here in MN as well. But I don't think people will rush to do it as much as you think when they figure out that it's just not that easy, and they still won't be able to keep anything but a photo!
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 02:01 PM 12/23/13 (CST)
Reminds me of the time I went into Roy's Bait on Lake St in Minneapolis and on the counter was an early season photo of several big bass somebody had caught. "They kept those?" I asked. "You can see they're full of eggs." The guy working there took offense, which was also annoying. In my experience largemouth bass sitting on nests will hit anything that comes by so I don't believe allowing them to be targeted early is good for the resource unless they need weeding out to allow other predator species to thrive or other rare circumstances. While anglers are catching and releasing, what happens to the eggs in the nests left temporarily unguarded?

Bad enough Indians are netting pre-spawn fish without the rest of us joining in.
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 06:51 PM 12/23/13 (CST)
Domino:
It still is against the law to fish for bass at the proposed time frame in Minnesota.
Way back when, when I fished in the BASS Federation and money Tournaments in the 70's and 80's, this was one practice I avoided with the plague. Relocating the bedding fish to weigh in sites, upset the natural order.
That's another reason I was not to keen on the Wisconsin Opener. I can go on and on with this subject.
If fishermen are targeting bass before bass opener, they should be prosecuted.
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 08:51 AM 12/24/13 (CST)
Domino:
Just checked Google; and was unable to find articles that advocated this illegal practice. Please send me the article you are quoting.
I doubt Minnesota is allowing this activity to get more licenses.
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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 04:59 PM 12/26/13 (CST)
1st off, you are correct. In MN it is illegal to target bass and keep them during the 1st 2 weeks of the season. That's what the DNR proposes to change. They want it to be legal to target and catch with an immediate release. They believe that this won't hurt the fisheries. And will help keep the fisherman in the state because many of the diehards are leaving the state to do this type of fishing elsewhere. But wait...there's more!

Here in MN we are a very vertical state weather wise. So in typical years, after the bass season is already open, the bass in southern MN are done spawning and protecting their nests...central MN is in full swing, and the very northern part of the state hasn't even started yet! So how does our current rule protect these fish? What are we protecting with our current rules? Not much for the most part. And what about last year? They spawned very late throughout the whole state, and were legal to keep the whole time!

So, go to Google, type in bass fishing beds or spawning fish and find all kinds of articles both for and against and how too! This controversy has been going on since the late 1800's. And surely will continue.

As for me, when I fished in Canada, it was legal to catch and keep any bass at that time. They had a late spring and the bass were in the shallows. We were legal, and it was all catch and release!

And lastly, if you are going to ask people for their opinions...thank them if they reply, don't blast them for giving you a response that you don't agree with, especially if it's legal. We are the last people to get upset with. You need to be bending the ears at the DNR, and rounding up support from us. Alienating people won't help your cause. Good Luck.
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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 08:35 AM 12/27/13 (CST)
Domino- I don't think many die hards are leaving the state for those two weeks.
I'm just concerned with targeting bass on the beds, as it relates to the topic. The year before last year, lots were done spawning as the bass season opened.
I was just interested in your citations, since you made the statement. Here again, give me a couple. I'm interested how you interpreted the articles, and how I would.
I've been fishing Canada since 1972, and am quite familiar with their laws.
Lastly: I'll try to be nicer to you in the future; Opinions spawn response, gives us healthy debate. As far as fishing bass out of season, I still believe its illegal, regardless of how one spins it. If you get offended, don't reply with your opinion. I'm interested in yours,even if we would disagree.

Thanks: Ron
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