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Vibrations Tackle
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 04:58 PM 12/30/11 (CST)
Hello To All Fishing Pals Members,

Please allow me to open a new discussion on the use of blade baits. How many of you anglers have utilized blade baits. What is your favorite species to target?...walleye, bass, pike, musky, catfish, panfish, trout, or salmon? Have you tried fishing blade baits in salt water? Do you prefer to use them during cold water periods or during the summer months? Have you ever jigged them through the ice? Do you prefer to utilize them more as a jig or a lipless crankbait? Have you ever tried "deadsticking" bladebaits? Have you flat line trolled with blade baits? How about trolled them behind planer boards or downriggers? Do you sometimes have a tendency to miss a few fish now an then while jigging? We welcome you to share your stories! grin smiley


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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 07:36 PM 12/31/11 (CST)
There's an 8 question limit per post VT. HA! Just kidding! smile smiley

I fish for bass and have tried a blade bait once or twice. Just used it like a crank. No takers. I'd rather use a 'trap. I like your idea of the built in trailer on your EchoTail though. It's not your average blade bait.




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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 11:26 PM 01/01/12 (CST)
LOL FIshCat!

Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!
grin smiley


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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 10:06 AM 01/04/12 (CST)
Hey Justin,

I use blade baits occasionally.

I have found them to be very effective for lake trout and splake. The conditions I have seen them excel under is when the water gets a little warmer and the lakers or splake begin to school at the corners and ends of the deeper holes in a lake. In the parts of Canada I fish that is probably sometime during the first week or so of June... depending on the weather that year.

I use blade baits basically in the same style as a jig. I fish it vertically for fish I have spotted on my electronics. I have tried several types but the old school Heddon Sonar has been the most consistent in putting fish in the boat so far. I like its variety of sizes, colors, and line attachment options. Basically I let it go to the bottom and then jig it in 6-12 inch pops keeping a good feel on the line as it drops.... ripping in violently every so often and then reeling up a few feet to do it again a little higher in the water column. It is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to use braided no stretch line with a fairly heavy action rod with this application. Mono has way to much stretch to set the hook on a large fish that deep down. Limber light action rods will also severely limit your ability to feel strikes and make hookups in this type of fishing. If the fish are all in say 45-55 feet of water then I only fish from the bottom to about 40 feet. It has been a really successful alternative to jigs at times.

The other time I have used blade baits is for schooling white bass. Where I grew up they schooled heavily in the reservoirs. Sometimes the surface of the water looked like a boiling pot of water with the whites chasing the schooling shad on the surface. Here in Minnesota perhaps the best white bass option is on the Lake Pepin portion of the Mississippi. When whites school they may be on top for a while then go down after the shad for a while. The tricky thing is that when they are under they are also moving around a good bit. What I like to do is have one rod rigged with a top water for when they are on the surface. A second with a shallow running (3-6 feet) crankbait for as soon as they go down. The third I keep rigged with a blade bait or a spoon. I can then use that one to countdown to maybe 10-15 feet and retrieve it through the school. Occasionally (this happens at Pepin for instance) they will school around a ball of baitfish located on a structural element at maybe 10-25 feet. I then will use the same technique mentioned for lakers and splake. This allows me to have a lure in the strike zone of the fish at a moments notice no matter where they are chasing the baitfish. You are covered from top water, shallow water, deeper schoolers, or vertical presentations all at a moments notice. The blade I have historically had the greatest success with on white bass is Cotton Cordell's Gay Blade (what a name, eh?) It has an action that wobbles tightly.. a bit more like a crank bait but still a good vertical jigging option and certainly a good choice for schooling fish a little deeper down. It is specifically designed to look like a shad and comes in smaller sizes which often appeal to the whites.

I fish muskies a good bit. Although I have not tried it I have friends who will use the Fuzzy Duzzit blade bait after cold fronts when fishing very specific structure for muskies. They report some good northern catches on it as well under those conditions.

As I said in a previous post.. I like your concept on the Echotail. That soft plastic tail adds so much action. I think there are times that it will probably be a blade bait that has a clear advantage over the others on the market.

I don't use blade baits a great deal. The examples I mentioned are about it. However, there are times it is a tool you definitely want in your arsenal. There are also times it is probably the best tool available for the job of catching certain species of fish under those conditions.

I, for one, am ready for open water again... so many new baits to try!

Have a great day guys,

The Fisher
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 12:10 AM 01/05/12 (CST)
The Fisher always brings up some great points. My biggest problem with many blade baits is a size issue. When growing up, I used Bass Buster Beetle Spins. Nothing fancy but they catch fish! They had three sizes, small, medium, and large, but nothing really very large. The large one would catch a lot of fish, but usually not very large fish. 3-4lb northerns and bass would be about the largest one would catch, and pretty rare. And of course the smaller ones were good for pan fish and so on. My thought has always been that they need to be larger to catch the larger fish. So a magnum size, super magnum, or super giant magnum size would all be great options if available. I think you get the idea. A jump from a beetle spin to these huge muskie sized versions with no options in between seems a bit short sighted. And now a days they seem to be out dated and harder to find. And when I do, the size options are even more limited as well.

Fisher, I think we have been fishing for the same lakers in Canada! I use cleo's or marabou jigs with a little belly meat attached. And I also have been on the wrong side of the strechy mono and was real frustrated as well! But there's nothing like feeling a little perchy taptap in 50ft of water and setting the hook and then watching the drag scream out...lots of fun...thanks for bringing back the memories in Quetico smile smiley
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 06:42 PM 01/06/12 (CST)
Fisher,
Thanks for sharing! Great information. Last year, we spent a considerable amount of time trolling for muskies and pike with great results. We ran them in the prop wash, behind planner boards and flatlined trolled. We would often times add a little more weight to get the baits to run a little deeper. The interesting thing about trolling blade baits is that they sink if you slow down the boat vs floating to the surface like traditional buoyant crank baits. We used this to our advantage while trolling over deep water after spotting large schools of deep suspend bait fish. Would would simply slow the boat down, let the blades drop then gunned the boat to rip the lures through the pods. This technique proved to be quite successful. We are really looking forward to night trolling this season. With all the vibration that they put off, fish should be able to track them quite easily!


Justin Blanchar
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