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polinder_88
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 09:44 AM 10/06/11 (CST)
What is the best way to rig sucker minnows for Northerns?
The Fisher
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 08:15 PM 10/07/11 (CST)
Hey Polinder-

The answer to that depends on two things.

1. How big are the suckers you plan to use?
2. How big are the potential northern in the waters you plan to fish?

If you are using suckers of about 6 inches or less you are probably safe just attaching a high quality swivel and leader with a cross snap and attaching a treble hook to the snap. Attach an appropriately sized treble hook to the snap. Thats all there is to it. A leader with a good snap and a treble hook. Place the treble through and back out of the skin close to the dorsal fin on one side or the other of the sucker. DO NOT embed the point of the treble into the meat of the sucker or you will often miss the strike by not being able to move the hook across the fishes mouth as it is in the meat of the sucker. This would function as a "quick strike" rig and you can set the hook as soon as you see the float go under... or break free if you are using that style.

For larger suckers you will probably want to go to a 2 hook quick strike rig. One hook goes in the suckers mouth and the other attached in the way mentioned above at the dorsal fin. There are lots of commercial ones available. I have used several brands and all have functioned well enough. However, check the quality of the attachments, clevis , and hook sizes. They can be made for bait fish from 6 inches to 24 inches. Several kinds are adjustable and can fit a wide array of bait sizes. Again, look for quality components if you go this way. If you wish you may examine it , look online, and try making your own as well.

One of these two options should work for you. however, the straight treble hook below a leader and cross lock snap is awfully hard to beat for solid hooksets. I have very, very, very rarely ever missed a fish with this setup. I am sure others here can give the same testimony.

The wild card here is if you are fishing deep weed edges in deeper water. In that case you may opt for a large jighead (Kalin's makes some good ones) and attack a treble hook stinger. You are then essentially fishing the sucker as a jig... which lets you fish effectively from the surface to 20 feet deep. Just another option if you find yourself fishing a situation that calls for that type presentation.

Good Luck and let us know how it works for you!

The Fisher
Odin
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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 04:33 PM 10/09/11 (CST)
I agree with most of this except the treble hook parts. The DNR apparently addressed it with another poster.

"A treble hook does need to be part of a lure. The least enforcement will accept is a spinner blade within three inches of the hook.
good luck
jim

James Abernathy
DNR Information Consultant"

Hard to beat a jig through the sucker lips when drifting but when I'm anchored I get better action with a single hook through the back just behind the dorsal fin on a 12-inch black leader with a large split-shot about a foot ahead of the leader under a slip bobber. I love fireline cuz there's no stretch to it so you can feel every shake of the fish's head when you're fighting it. And it's easier to set the hook, you just sweep it until you get a good bend in your rod and start reeling. With both rigs I usually use a small piece of twister tail over the barb after I put the minnow on the hook so it won't wriggle off.
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 10:37 AM 10/10/11 (CST)
Yo Odin-

I must admit you are a contradiction in personalties dude. You are a self professed Odinist. To see an Odinist even caring about a law concerning treble hooks is an absolute joke. Caring about the man made law designed to infringe upon your freedom is absolutely anathema to the heart of Odinism...what's up with that man?

For those who may not be up to speed on this ancient pagan society/religion here are a few lines from The Odin Brotherhood to help clue you in.

Begin Quotes

"As a warrior religion Odinism holds to--a creed that glorifies the hero over the saint--the "mailed fist" over the "nailed hands"--the Odin Brotherhood represents strength over weakness, pride over humility, and knowledge over faith.

A revolt against the modern world–with its laws and moral codes–its hangmen and its priests–Odinism teaches men and women how to rule, fight, hunt, and procreate.

End Quotes from Odin Brotherhood

In addition..if an Odinist were ever caught in a game law..or any...violation they merely apply the "Warriors Ruse". This in effect allows what is commonly called a "lie" to not actually be one. In essence it is perfectly acceptable to deceive another in a "ruse" if circumstances call for it.

Few things...if indeed ANY things, are actually "wrong" in true Odinism. There is therefor never a need to apologize and/or repent .

Again, quoting from The Odin Brotherhood:


Sin is denied and "contrition" is denounced as a "totem of decadence." Odinists see repentance as a mark of weakness because "only the terrorized repent."

Ordinary humans--dedicated to what Nietzsche(the Nazi Nietzsche?) called the slave religions--spend their lives toiling and obeying. Members of the Brotherhood--in contrast--are extraordinary mortals who know how to rule, fight, hunt, and procreate.

End Quotes

As you can see...true Odinists do NOT believe in obeying anyoneor anything but their desires.

Like it, don't like it, agree with it, or disagree with it..it really doesn't matter.
Odinism..it just is what it is.

Now, back to my original point. Odin, if you are a practicing Odinist then you would seem almost forced to use the treble hooks. It enhances your fishing chances of success and you must never submit under the "rules" placed down by the authorities! Again, they key idea for Odinism is that , "Odinism teaches men and women how to rule, fight, hunt, and procreate". To abandon your rights to pursue fish or animals in any way that is most successful means you violate your core values. Who actually rules in this decision...you or a beaurocrat at the DNR? So....are you in or out? Odinist or not? Are you about ruling, fighting, hunting, and procreating and making all things subservient to that... or just an Odinist in name only. Republicans call some of their party RINOS... are you an OINO?

Just asking to keep you honest dude. Good luck sticking a big pike whatever type hook you end up using.

Get The Board,

SurfsUp
polinder_88
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 10:01 PM 10/10/11 (CST)
I am going to be fishing waters that are no more than 12 feet. near weed lines.

most of the pike are between 20-27 inches from what my source has been telling me. I just want to make sure that I am prepared for when I go out to the lake. I am heading out this week.

thank you for the input.
Odin
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 11:26 PM 10/11/11 (CST)
Surfsup -

Odinists believe in fairness. We tend to obey the laws we consider fair instead of being good Nazis goose-stepping to every societal dictate or scofflaws running every red light. It's often a mistake to take quotes out of historical context. The beliefs you cite were shaped by times when royalty and nobility ruled and made and enforced laws, many of them unfair. Different social contracts call for different responses.
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