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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 03:31 PM 04/21/10 (CST)
As someone who moved to the Big 10, I am curious about all this expansion talk. Are you in favor of it? How big should the expansion be? What teams are you most interested in seeing join? My team is thrown out there as a possibility on occasion. I won't tell you what team that is just yet. First I want to know what you think without telling you that.



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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 11:11 AM 04/26/10 (CST)
Wow, nobody cares. Do you even realize that the Big 10 is hoping to expand to as many as 16 teams? It could mean big changes for the U of M. Where I am from this is a big story and everyone is frantically discussing whether we would want to join the big 10 or not. It would mean more money etc etc for whoever joins. Notre Dame has already made it clear that they are not interested, so it will be interesting to see just whom the big 10 will pursue. Maybe it's just me who is interested.



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 04:17 PM 05/11/10 (CST)
Since no one cares to respond, I will just offer up my own commentary here. The Big 10 is rumored to have offered to take my team if we should choose to apply. I am from Nebraska and am a diehard Nebraska fan. I would love to see us join the Big 10/11. It would be so cool to get to go to the U of M to watch my team give the Gophers a beat down. You have our old defensive coordinator leading your defense , good luck with that. He had us dead last in the nation in 2007. Bo Pelini on the other hand has restored the Nebraska defense to the No. 1 scoring defense in the nation last year. Our offense hasn't come along very well, but that front also looks promising. I think we would do well in the Big 10. I think some great rivalries could be in the works. Time will tell.



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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 04:35 PM 05/11/10 (CST)
I have read that they are looking at both Nebraska and Missouri. Just great. Two more football teams to beat up on the floundering gophers.
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 07:19 PM 05/11/10 (CST)
I have also been hearing the Mizzou/Nebraska rumors. As I live in Missouri right now it is all over the sports news. I can't see any way under the sun that Nebraska bolts to the Big 10...Mizzou more likely but still a great stretch. There are HUGE buyouts that must be paid for a team to leave a major conference. Historic rivalries and boosters placing pressure make it much harder for a Mizzou/Nebraska to make that move...even if they wanted to.I can't imagine why a Big 12 school would want to move to the big 10. A move to the Big 10 is certainly no "step up" for a big 12 school. I would think it is really more of a step down. The competitiveness and quality of the Big 12 exceeds the Big 10 by a good deal right now.

That being said...to move a school up from a smaller conference would seem to be a good idea. The only hang up would be if they met the academic requirements and sports diversity to be Big 10 eligible.

If they could meet the academic and diversity qualifications I would think that Cincinnati is a GREAT choice. Their football team has been smokin' the last few years. However, the fly in the ointment with that has always been that Ohio State wields a veto on that..and have always been clear that they DO NOT want to compete with another Big 10 school for in state recruiting. I never did like those guys from THE Ohio State University.... after getting severe beat downs for three straight years in bowl games..from the SEC teams and a Big 12..they are even more determined not to let an in state university come in parity with them.

Another GREAT option would be Pitt from the Big East. It would be a clear step up for Pitt to go to the Big 10 and would immediately have the draw of a stellar rivaly with Penn State if both were in the Big 10. West Virgina would fit into that catagory as well.

Mizzou is also a natural .....but again the huge buy out, rivalry traditions, heavy booster pressure all pull away from that.

A real dark horse pick... but one that is probably on par with the lower tier Big 10 teams might be Western Michigan. Again, a clear move up from the MAC.. and geographically a real match.... their programs are in many ways cream of the MAC crop.

I have lot's of Nebraska family...Husker blood for generations..no way Big Red leaves the Big 12 with the history of Oklahoma/Texas and Nebraska...no chance there.

Well that's the view from the peanut galery. It will be interesting to see how this pans out daninthewoods.

I agree with you whole heartedly about the hiring of Cosgrove by Minnesota. Minnesota was REALLY making progress and getting attention fom some really good recruits because of it the last three years... however you are correct..Cosgrove took the once mighty and proud Blackshirts of Nebraska and turned them into an absolute joke defensively. Literally from the top to the cellar under his watch. Unfortunately Minnesota showed signs of following his trend last year...my thoughts are...U of M needs to fire cosgrove IMMEDIATELY and bring in an assistant defensive guru from the SEC. There are about four there that are ready to take the next step..if the Big 10 doesn't realize the implications of the last four bowl seasons and bring in that talent then the SEC, and Big 12 to an extent, will continue to absolutely dominate the Big 10 in football as they have the last several years. The SEC has four National Championships in four yeas by THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS! 2006 was Florida CRUSHING Ohio State, 2007 was LSU CRUSHING Ohio State, 2008 had Florida beating Oklahoma, and last year Alabama beating Texas. That is absolute conference domination! The Big 10 must wake up...or the days of BCS bowl victories for any Big 10 team will be very rare indeed! The SEC and Big 12 own division 1 college football right now..unless the Big 10 wakes up it won't change any time soon!

Just my 2 cents,

Jason
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 11:23 AM 05/13/10 (CST)
Jason, I am not sure I can agree with you on the step down issue. The Big 10 is more respected academically and has great support for research institutions. The money a school would get from the tv contracts would be more than double what the schools in the Big 12 get each year. compare 9 million to 22 million and you start to see why the big buyout thing isn't such a barrier. Tom Osbourne never wanted the Big 8 to expand. He did not like the idea of making so many allowances to get Texas on board. In so many issues in the big 12 such as partial qualifiers and adding a championship game, Nebraska was at the losing end of a 11 - 1 vote in the Big 12. Devaney actually tried to get us in the Big 10 way back when he was Athletic Director. I think there is a good chance that Osbourne and Pearlman decide to take us to the Big 10. We will soon see.



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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 03:39 PM 05/13/10 (CST)
This was in the Tulsa World newspaper today....

"A Kansas City radio station is reporting that the Big Ten Conference has made "initial offers" to Big 12 schools Missouri and Nebraska to join the league, but a top Nebraska official said no such overture has been made to the Cornhuskers.

According to a story on the website for Kansas City radio station WHB am810 citing “multiple sources close to the negotiations,” the Big Ten has made offers to Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame and Rutgers. The Big Ten is looking to expand, but conference officials have not said how many teams might be added.

Lincoln, Neb., Journal-Star columnist Steve Sipple reported in a blog post that "asked whether the report has any validity as it applies to Nebraska, UNL chancellor Harvey Perlman said, 'None whatsoever.'"

Missouri and Nebraska would have to pay a penalty to leave the Big 12, with a move costing the schools 50 to 100 percent of the shared annual revenue from the league, the radio station reported. The University of Missouri Board of Regents would have to approve the move"

Read more from this Tulsa World article at

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=234&articleid=20100510_298_0_hrimgs561257

As I did a little research I saw that the monetary amounts gained would not be nearly as much as the proported 11 million per year...more like 2-3 million..and ALL of that is made up of Big 10 network tv contracts. If I were the Big 12 I would try to pull out Iowa from the Big 10, entice TCU from the Mountain West, or perhaps Utah then turning it into the Big 14 and create my own Super conference. The tv contract for the then Big 14 should more than out compete the Big 10 one and stave off any thoughts of teams bolting.

That is of course all specualtion...the real clincher is that quote from the Lincoln Journal Star, "Lincoln, Neb., Journal-Star columnist Steve Sipple reported in a blog post that "asked whether the report has any validity as it applies to Nebraska, UNL chancellor Harvey Perlman said, 'None whatsoever.'"

Nuf said as far as Nebraska is concerned for me. Perlman is known as a straight laced, your word is your bond guy. I can't help but believe he is shooting it straight.

I also find it interesting that the Big 10 flatly refused to even consider conference expansion just 3 years ago... and that Cincinnati and Pitt are not in the mix. Wouldn't want Penn State or THE Ohio State University guys to have to compete for in state talent...hmmm.

Time will tell, eh?
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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 02:05 PM 05/14/10 (CST)
Well here we go, I can match your speculation with more speculation. I have a few articles that I am quoting from and i will site a link to the source at the end of each. Here goes.

Another reason to take this seriously: not just that the UNL administration sent out a statement on the matter — there have been countless reports the past several weeks on Big Ten expansion, and UNL didn’t issue statements on those. Moreover, it was what Chancellor Harvey Perlman said — or didn’t say.

UNL offered your basic nondenial denial. It said no offer has been made to join the Big Ten. It also added that “we remain committed to the success of the Big 12." But in the next sentence, the statement said “until the Big Ten makes an announcement, we’ll have nothing to say on the subject."

In other words, NU is committed to the Big 12 — until the Big Ten tells you otherwise.

This is about semantics. Technically speaking, UNL is probably telling the truth. Has NU been offered a spot in the Big Ten? No. According to ESPN’s Big Ten blogger, Adam Rittenberg, schools must apply for admission into the Big Ten. Anybody got a pen?

More than likely, what is happening here is that NU, Mizzou and others have been contacted by a middle man or headhunter and asked if they would be interested in entering discussions about Big Ten membership. Meanwhile, they were told that if they did apply, their application would be given all serious consideration, looked upon favorably, wink, wink.




Sipple also had this to say:

A lot of folks are extremely adept at dissecting news releases. I’m not cut out that way. But an attorney friend described UNL’s prepared statement as “a textbook non-denial denial.”

The news release perhaps went a bit too far by saying, “Until the Big (Ten) Conference makes and announces its decision on expansion, the University of Nebraska will have no further comment and we do not intend to continue to respond further to questions or speculations on this subject.”




Further reading on the Non-denial denial.


A good article on why the Big 10/11 would want us short of getting Notre Lame.



Why Tom Osbourn isn't happy in the big 12





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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 02:06 PM 05/14/10 (CST)
Crap, for some reason it didn't register my links.



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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 09:35 AM 06/06/10 (CST)
Do you still think Nebraska won't go to the Big 10. The Big 12 has set a two week deadline for Nebraska and Missouri to decide if they are staying or going. An offer from the Big Ten hasn't even officially been offered, but the Big 12 is freaking out. They must believe Nebraska already has an offer on the table. Instead of trying to offer Nebraska some love to keep them, they are trying to whip them into line. I think that strategy is going to backfire. I say Nebraska will be headed to the Big 10 and soon.



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