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darkhouseartist
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 05:09 PM 12/13/09 (CST)
Darkhouse spearing Art by Kenneth Dahl... Thought you guys would really enjoy these...












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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 07:30 PM 12/13/09 (CST)
The art looks great but as an advocate of CPR for big fish, I'm anti-spearing. Do spearers usually eat fish that big? And isn't it illegal to spear muskies? (If it isn't, it should be.)

I have no problem with subsistence spearing, but I doubt most contemporary spearers need the meat. Any plans to paint wildlife scenes of animals caught in leghold traps?
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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 07:35 PM 12/14/09 (CST)
Odin said "The art looks great but as an advocate of CPR for big fish, I'm anti-spearing. Do spearers usually eat fish that big? And isn't it illegal to spear muskies? (If it isn't, it should be.)

I have no problem with subsistence spearing, but I doubt most contemporary spearers need the meat. Any plans to paint wildlife scenes of animals caught in leghold traps? "

Take a pill there Odin. They are pictures of a time, for the most part of the past. I know plenty of people who spear for the meat. I also know people who sit in a spear house and just watch the fish.

Like it or not it is a sport that has been around in Minnesota for a long time.

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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 10:57 PM 12/14/09 (CST)
And for a long time Southerners lynched black people for sport. Do you really think that's a good enough rationale? Would you like to see those scenes painted as fond memories?

Artists should take responsibility for their art.
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 08:19 AM 12/15/09 (CST)
Wow, spearing to racism. We sure cover it all here at MFP. I fancy some smoked northern and I know a few that love to pickel it. I love to spear, watching that fish come in at a live sucker preparing to hammer it, gets me just as excited as seeing a nice buck walk by my stand.

The pics are awsome!!!!!
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 11:01 AM 12/15/09 (CST)
OK, here's an attempt to town it down a little.

I believe that all of the pictures show spearing of northerns, not muskies. I am not 100% certain and haven't had time to check the reg book but I believe Odin is correct that spearing muskies is illegal.

You can eat pike, they are a pain to clean but many people pickle then, smoke them, etc. They are actually pretty tasty but the y-bones make them difficult to clean.

Respectfully, the analogy to lynching is a bit extreme. The point I think you are trying to make ("just because its been done for a long time doesn't make it right") is well taken, but I'm not sure its applicable here. I would suspect that most of the people who spear eat what they catch. I have seen people spear other species, most notably perch (sort through the dinks and use a small spear) and I am quite certain they eat what they spear. And I don't think anybody's out there slaughtering all the pike (or anythng else) in the entire lake.

The artwork is phenomenal. I wish I had that talent.
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 05:25 PM 12/15/09 (CST)
Well here ya go...
I'm the artist, and the name of the Musky print is "Unexpected Guest". The sportsman is "expecting" a 10-pound northern, but instead this monster shows up in a flash. The painting poses the question to all sportsman... "Would you be quick enough and strong enough in your convictions to grab the spear and stop the illegal action, or would you let it plunge into this magnificent creature?"

By the way, it wasn't the local Scandinavians in northern Minnesota who depleted the fish population over the last 40 years. When I was a little boy my father speared a 30-pound Musky and it fed our family for 2 weeks. We never took from the land or the lake more than we needed, and to this day I feel absolutely no guilt for taking fish like that or even a deer out of season if my family really needed it. Fortunately I don't have to do that because of my financial success.

Its a friggin fish, dude. Nothing more. Nothing less. Everything is going to be alright. Well, actually, if Obama gets everything he wants I predict there will be a lot more Muskies taken by the spear to supplement the refrigerator for those who can't find work.

One can only "Hope" (there's that word again) things get better. Which brings me to a completely different subject... I saw the funniest bumper sticker the other day. It said... "Hey. Hows that whole hopey changey thing workin for ya?" No President in history has done this poorly with the economy. One must wonder if it is on purpose...

PS I'm a conservative Republican, but even Bill Clinton would have implemented a conservative solution by now...

Kenneth Dahl

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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 07:19 PM 12/15/09 (CST)
Lordy. Ever heard of a president named Herbert Hoover? There haven't been many presidents handed a worse hand than Obama, so it's a bit early to be writing him off. No major terrorist attacks here in his first 8 months so he's already doing better than his predecessor. It'll be interesting to see what the recenty recovered "lost" 22 million e-mails shed light on.

Funniest bumper sticker I've seen lately was "Don't blame me. I voted for McCain." Like Grampa and Nanookie of the North would be doing better. Kinda funny how few people admit to voting for Bush/Cheney, but understandable given the mess they made of things.

As for the artwork, as I've already said, I've no problem with subsistence fishing and huge fish being taken to feed families that would otherwise go hungry. The thrill of seeing big fish come in to decoys is probably similar to the thrill of seeing them when video fishing, but spearing them removes a rare resource. Big fish tend to be relatively rare and spearing probably makes them rarer.

Perhaps a better analogy than lynching would be dog-fighting or cock-fighting, both sports that have long histories but are now considered by most Americans to be shameful.
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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 10:06 PM 12/15/09 (CST)
This thread is pretty funny. How did we get from looking at a few paintings to politics?

If we want to debate the merit and ethics of spearfishing it might go better if we can keep it on point.

By the way, thats some nice art work there. I'm not a spear guy myself but responsible selective harvest of a resource can be sustainable. However I can't say I'd support the methods depicted in the painting titled "Old Timer". The guy is tossing his 5th large pike on the ice. That in my opinion is not sustainable and the limit in MN is 3 pike with only 1 over 30 inches. If the regs are adhered to I have no problem with the sport.


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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 07:29 AM 12/16/09 (CST)
I almost moved this to the controversial forum but decided to keep it where it is.

It's just art, and as art, can be interpreted many ways. For all we know, the guy is fishing in Ivssorigseq (yes, it is a real place).

But as art, I commend the artist... your art is doing exactly what it should... angering some and pleasing others. Making people think and having those people interpret the art from their own experiences.

On a side note, though, if you want to debate politics, feel free to start another thread in the controversial forum. That's what that forum should be used for. Lord knows we could have many lively debates over there, considering the current state of affairs. In fact, I was going to start a thread on Climategate... OOPS! Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned that here, eh? smile smiley smile smiley smile smiley



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