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trout
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 07:02 AM 07/31/08 (CST)
VOICE YOUR OPPOSITION TO TWO GUN CONTROL BILLS

A pair of gun control bills passed out of the Executive Committee today:

The first bill, HB4357, would prohibit the ownership most of the rifles, shotguns and pistols now on the market.

The second bill, HB4393 would prohibit the purchasing of more than one firearm per month.

HERE IS WHAT YOU MUST DO TO SAVE YOUR GUNS
1. Contact your State Representative and politely tell him/her that you are opposed to HB4357 and HB4393 and that you would like for him/her to vote against the bill when it comes up. If you do not know who your State Representative is, then go to www.ilga.gov and follow the “Legislator Lookup” link.

2. Pass this alert along to all your gun-owning friends and ask them to follow the instructions above.

3. Please post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards to which you belong.

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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 10:26 AM 07/31/08 (CST)
If you plan on getting a new gun better do it before Obama gets elected, you can kiss gun buying goodbye when he gets in!
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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 10:45 AM 07/31/08 (CST)
Done and Done
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 10:08 PM 07/31/08 (CST)
Who told you 4357 would "prohibit the ownership of most rifles shotguns and pistols on the market today" and why did you believe it?

Do you diseminate this kind of misinformation out of laziness or malice? Or as the question is usually posed - stupid or evil?
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 02:14 PM 08/01/08 (CST)
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Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a semi-automatic assault weapon, an assault weapon attachment, any .50 caliber rifle, or .50 caliber cartridge. Provides that beginning 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act, it is unlawful for any person within this State to knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or possessed a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Provides that these provisions do not apply to a person who possessed a prohibited weapon, device, or attachment before the effective date of this amendatory Act if the person has provided proof of ownership to the Department of State Police within 90 days after the effective date of this amendatory Act. Provides that on or after the effective date of this amendatory Act, such person may transfer such device only to an heir, an individual residing in another state maintaining that device in another state, or a dealer licensed as a federal firearms dealer. Specifies penalties for violations. Provides exemptions. Provides that the provisions of the Act are severable. Effective immediately."


If you need a .50 caliber gun for hunting.. what are you taking.. a giant MOOSE?

Im confused though.. why are we even debating what happens in Illinois in Minnesota.



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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 02:40 PM 08/01/08 (CST)
If you shoot something with a 50 caliber rifle i hope you don't plan on making a mount out of it. Heck you won't even need to take it to the butcher, just scoop up whatever meat is remaining.

On a more serious note I would rather have hand guns banned. Rifles and shotguns are far more useful and practical and are used in far less criminal activity.


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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 06:20 AM 08/02/08 (CST)
I personally believe illegal activity with weapons is going to take place whether this bill passes or not. All it would mean is that less people would be able to defend themselves against the people committing these crimes.
On another note I like my handguns as much as I like my rifles, shotguns, etc. I can understand the .50 caliber and maybe the semiautomatics with 100 round magazines, but if they are outlawed that just opens the door for the rest to be taken away.
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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 11:41 AM 08/02/08 (CST)
There was a good thread on this last year. It's actually in the best of the forums...

http://myfishingpals.com/Minnesota-Fishing-Forum.taf?_function=detail&ForumMasterThreads_uid1=2642&start=1&ForumNumber=5




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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 09:22 PM 08/02/08 (CST)
Who is to decide what makes a gun good or bad? I think it has more to do with WHO is holding it. If they ban handguns, I bet crimes with sawed-off shotguns goes up, Criminals are going to use whatever they can find.(and hacksaws are still legal). more ppl are killed by cars and we arn't even considering banning them. Its up to all of us to just be responsible citizens with whatever we own. I don't think they were talking about muzzleloders, but .50 cal is a popular round for whitetail deer. But my cousin who lives part time in Alaska has a .50 cal revolver for "Bear away", and I'm sure he can't just leave it there. I guess we could all just apply for a Federal Firearms License. Be careful out there, there are ppl out there who want to think for you. crazy smiley


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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 04:00 AM 08/03/08 (CST)
The slippery slope argument isn't a good one. None of our rights are absolute. Should it always be legal to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater because banning it puts us on the slippery slope to curtailing all free speech?

I don't want cops on the street to be outgunned. Their jobs are hard enough without going up against assault rifles. Did banning machine guns put us on the sippery slope too? Where would you draw the line? Howitzers?

The U.S. Supreme Court recently found DC's handgun prohibition to be unconstitutional. Given the courts' respect for precedent, the courts' rulings that individuals are responsible for their own defense, and the prevalence of gun-owning American voters, it's hard to believe most rifles, shotguns and pistols will be banned in our lifetimes. Propaganda to the contrary is just fear-mongering aimed at "God, guns and gays" conservative sheep who are easily stampeded.

As for who decides what makes a gun good or bad, you could say the same thing about atom bombs, but I don't want Charlie who lives down the road to have one.
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