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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 10:40 AM 10/11/07 (CST)
Yep, I started a blog...I did. I posted a recent press release there and that is about it, for now. The blog is going to be dedicated to this site and I put it there to try to garner a few more users. I shot an email to WebDude and he said that it was a fine idea.

Anyway, the blog is located here...

http://www.buzz.mn/?q=blog/2086

Please go in there and make a comment, if you like!

Now what is really wierd is that the Star Tribune picked up on the blog and there is now a link to it, or at least to the press release, on almost every page. Go to http://www.startribune.com/local/ and take a look on the right underneath buzz.mn and there it is.

By the way, if you did not know, there is a press release that is going around, with WebDude's permission, I have added it here. Pretty exciting stuff, if you ask me!


MINNESOTA FISHERMEN TAKE A CRITICAL LOOK AT PETA

(I-Newswire) - On a local Minnesota fishing website, many fishermen are expressing their outrage at PETA’s aggressive anti-fishing campaign. In response to recent posts on My Fishing Pals' message forum ( www.myfishingpals.com ), anglers from across Minnesota are showing a united front against the efforts of PETA. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and other animal rights groups are aggressively attempting to inhibit all hunting and fishing in Minnesota and other states. These groups are intently focusing their attack on sport fishing, a traditional Minnesota pastime. PETA's message is that recreational anglers cause extreme and needless pain to fish and bait. Their agenda is to heighten the public's awareness to the killing of any fish or animal. In addition, they desire to promote animal rights at the grassroots level, spreading awareness in communities and making sure their message is visible and heard.

To spread their animal rights agenda on a public fishing forum, though, is a slap in the face to all who enjoy hunting and fishing, especially in a state like Minnesota. Known as the “land of 10,000 lakes,” Minnesota offers some of the best hunting and fishing in the nation and these traditions are considered Minnesota’s heritage, recreation, and a vital part of the State’s economy. Regular members of the forum are expressing their rights to hunt and fish and the positive role they play in wildlife management. They are telling PETA to “…go home, we don’t want you here.”

My Fishing Pals ( www.myfishingpals.com ) originated in 2003 as a hobby-fishing site that welcomes Minnesota fishermen to share fishing reports, information, and other items related to fishing. In 2005 a controversial forum was created on the site so that Minnesota fishermen could address fishing and hunting issues. These controversial forums have become an avenue for hunters and fishermen to voice their opinions and concerns and, at times, defend traditional Minnesota values.




Pretty cool, huh?


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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 10:54 AM 10/11/07 (CST)
Very cool, Ted!

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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 11:42 AM 10/11/07 (CST)
Ted,

Excellent idea and excellent job! You da man!

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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 12:22 PM 10/11/07 (CST)
Nice work Ted, way to get the word out! ooo smiley


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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 12:28 PM 10/11/07 (CST)
I agree on the good idea part. I checked out the Star and found the link on numerous pages.


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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 12:30 PM 10/11/07 (CST)
Good job, Ted. I appreciate all your effort. Hopefully we will start getting a few new users which means more diverse information posted here in the forums.

I wish I would have come up with that idea! confused smiley



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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 12:47 PM 10/11/07 (CST)
Interesting blog started...



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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 02:04 PM 10/15/07 (CST)
Just an update on my new blog. Here are the responses I have gotten so far... I find this all very fascinating!
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Okay, I can see both sides
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 11:57am.
Okay, I can see both sides of the issue. What is extremely fascinating is how the PETA folks seem to be able to win their arguments while the fishing folks have hardly anything to say about. Questions like, "Why do you hunt?" go unanswered as hunters fumble around for words to defnd their sport... usually with answers like, "Because I can" or "It's my God given right."

Come on, all you hunters and fishermen out there. There's gotta be at least one articulate person willing to stand up for something you are all obviously passionate about! Or is it the fact that yes, it is hard to put into words.
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Well, with topics like, "PETA at It Again" and "Do you hunt? Or Are You Just Out to Kill," it's no wonder the issues can be difficult to address much less articulate. Read the threads, people... like Ted said, "It's a hoot!"

Just my 2 cents...


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Keep up the good work Ted!
Submitted by WebDude (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 12:07pm.
A never ending fight, eh?

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The hunting and fishing
Submitted by KingFisher (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 4:18pm.
The hunting and fishing community is losing the information war against PETa and similar groups. This is incredible as the facts tend to be on the sportmans side of the table when all facts are aired out. When I checked out this website I found that the PETa affiliates are making points but the sporting community is fairly staid in their responses. The battle lines are drawn...now is the time for Minnesotan's who enjoy fishing and hunting to counter attack those groups and solidify these traditional Minnesota endeavors before some West Coast California lawyer takes them from you.


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PETa WANTS YOUR FISHING RODS
Submitted by Waterworld (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 4:28pm.
After reading the posts on the MyFishingPals website I found that we hunters and fishers were having it taken to us in the information war. Although the facts are on our side when all aired out it seems that they are difficult for us to put forward in a debate. I read earlier that we must defend these traditional Minnesota pastimes before some Clifornia PETa lawyer takes them away from us....hard to imagine..but it would be harder to endure! Get involved in the debate unless you want your guns and rods to go to PETa!


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PETA is full of air
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 8:35pm.
While PETA has a loud voice it tends to have very small actions in the court room. Or atleast it would on an issue like trying to ban hunting or fishing in Minnesota.
I say let them blow all the hot air they want, this is not a case that is going to be simply won by the group that yells the loudest.
I don't feel like I should have to defend my hobbies to someone who doesn't like them. I enjoy fishing for a multitude of reason, none of which might make sense to someone with a PETA mind set. I enjoy fishing and thats all that matters. Just like its PETA's right to contribute to global warming by spewing their hot air all over the place its also my right to ignore them while tossing a line in the water.
So I will continue ignoring them for now, but if they try to bring the fight to the court room with legislation then watch out becuase the fight is on and I promise that 1000 hippie PETA people can't stand up to even 10 northwoods fisherman.


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Seems like you got both
Submitted by Chad (not verified) on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 10:41pm.
Seems like you got both sides down all right... yours and PETA's!


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Excellent point, we DO NOT
Submitted by matt1300 (not verified) on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 6:01am.
Excellent point, we DO NOT need to defend our desire to hunt and fish. PETA has no power or authority, especially in a state like Minnesota where the history and heritage of outdoor sports is strong. Nobody in our government is ever going to take a stand against hunting or fishing, at least not if they want to continue being a politician in this state. These pissants will go away when they realize there is absolutely nothing they can do to change our way of life, in the meantime, enjoy your fall hunting and fishing everybody!


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Hey Anonymous... We got the
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 7:13am.
Hey Anonymous... We got the same name!

This is a subject that angers and brings out the passions on both sides. You may not agree or you do, the fact that you can debate, though, is actually fun and/or funny.

I think I am going to find pro PETA forum and see how long my posts will last there.


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Cultural practices need to be protected unless a danger
Submitted by andersgyllen on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 10:53am.
Even die-hard liberals see that basic cultural practices are an important asset to the growth of each generation. We have already lost some important collective cultural aspects through technology and popular culture. Malls are no longer destinations to share society but merely in and out, cabins are not weekend or summer getaways but 90-mph drive homes for the wastefully wealthy, and even neighborhood lakes are no longer respected but play-tubs for jet-skiers. Perhaps Sport Fishing may be a little excess beyond the traditions of the early to mid 20th century. But fishing itself is so human an element and was and still is so ingrained in our northern European ancestors that it cannot be easily taken apart. Perhaps what PETA should focus on is the long-term impact of fishing. Are there more anglers than there should be on lakes? Are more fish being caught to the point where they cannot sustain themselves? Is the preservation of our tradition nearing an end because we have overdone it? This is the first step that should be taken, not the complete elimination.


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But PETA....
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/10/2007 - 11:09am.
Don't you see, though? PETA will never concentrate on just the long-term impact of fishing. Increasing or decreasing the fish population is not what PETA is trying to achieve. Take a look at fishinghurts.com or any of the other related, pro-PETA sites out there. "PETA's message is that recreational anglers cause extreme and needless pain to fish and bait," and ..."they desire to promote animal rights..." The problem is PETA puts animal rights above human rights. If it came down to it, given the choice of humans starving or saving an animal, the animal would win, to PETA's way of thinking. I do agree with your assesment that PETA should change their focus, but that has been tried before. It's the suffering of animals that they abhor.


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CATCH A CLUE
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 10/11/2007 - 10:24am.
Those Minnesotan's among us who are advocating a "no response" attitude should take a clue form other "free democracies". We feel rather secure and smug in our land of 10,000 lakes and hunters galore. Many are saying to hold back defending these traditional Minnesota endeavors until they are actually in danger of being lost. The idea they are expressing seems to believe that losing those hunting and fishing rights could never happen.

Please catch a clue from the British. Fox hunting, a traditional English endeavor, and general firearm ownership was a given and taken for granted in England. However, by sportsmen becoming lax on this issue the hunting of foxes is now banned and general gun ownership is getting virtually impossible. When they could not actually ban a gun they passed ownership taxes that made it impossible for most folks to retain theirs. Let me ask you...if in 10 years a nation wide tax of $5000.00 per gun you own is imposed as well as a tax of $1000.00 per fishing rod and $500.00 per fishing reel what will you do? They can honestly say that it wasn't banned...that they were not ever trying to ban having these items....they just taxed them out of use for virtually everyone. The British have lost a great many freedoms in this way...and if we don't get smarter and quit sticking our heads in the sand pretending it can not happen here it will happen here some day as well. There is a very determined and well funded group of individuals seeking to get your guns and rods. They may take it one small step at a time...but they are on a relentless pursuit. STAND UP and make your voices known. Help to educate folks who may still be on the fence. We can win this battle...but only if we actively engage in the battleground of ideas and thoughts.
Hats off to that My Fishing Pals website for putting this vitally important issue on the front burner!


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Hunters whining again?
Submitted by Reality_Check on Sun, 10/14/2007 - 9:25am.
At least have the facts about PETA's position before going all hystrionic because one of your "fun pasttimes" (killing animals) might be "infringed upon":
see
www.HuntersRapeNature.com
and
www.fishinghurts.com
and
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=53

Then, find something constructive to do with your time other than shoot at animals who are unarmed. Can't you engage in some charity work? Read a book? Engage in a sport where others have AGREED to participate? Or are you too afraid to compete with others who are on equal footing with you (unlike the animals you kill)?


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I guess we can stop hunting
Submitted by Head Scratcher (not verified) on Mon, 10/15/2007 - 8:43am.
I guess we can stop hunting but then of course the alternative is to watch ten's of thousands of deer slowly waste away and die from starvation during the winter.

The deer herds are far to large to sustain themselves during the winter now. If hunters don't cull the herd and the deer will simply die a far slower, far more painful and agonzing death during the winter.

I know PETA is against hunting but are they FOR the starvation of the herd come winter?

If you call yourselves People for the ETHICAL treatment of animals maybe you need to realize that preventing mass starvation might be the ethical thing to do.

The world isn't all rose colored in reality, sometimes hunting is the most ethical option.

On a side note..
Once PETA starts treating humans with the same respect they show animals maybe then I can listen to your arguments, but they way you treat their fellow humans sure doesn't do much to win support for their cause.



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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 04:15 PM 10/15/07 (CST)
Thanks for the update date. Wow, look what you started! smile smiley


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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 04:47 AM 10/16/07 (CST)
I fish (and hunt) and I'm a believer in Natural Rights (including animal rights), so I've thought a bit about the morality of inflicting pain on animals as a part of sport.

My moral code is based on unnecessary suffering. I'm agin it. The more evolved the organism, the less willing I am to see it suffer. You want to take an antibiotic that'll wipe out millions of bacteria? Fine by me. You want to inflict torturous deaths on lab animals in the scientific pursuit of lessening horrific human suffering? Also fine.

Fishing inflicts pain (and often death) on bait and prey, but the trade-off is that people who fish are probably living healthier lives than they would be if they didn't fish. Fishing is moral because the more evolved organisms will probably suffer less than they would if they didn't fish.
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