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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 10:05 PM 07/18/07 (CST)
Just dropping in and saying Hi Everyone!
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 11:00 PM 07/18/07 (CST)
How's it going?

Welcome to the site, stick around awhile.


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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 04:41 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Loos15 ,
wellcome to the site glad to have you here ..

you been fishing latley ? got a report for us ?




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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 06:40 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
I don't have a boat, i can only report from the shores lol... Well Minnetonka excel bay, the crappies are biting nicely during dawn hours. Surface to 4 feet of water, right over the submerged weeds, using fat heads...
And thats about it... frown smiley
Btw, if anyone ever happens to have a spot on their boat and willing to take me...i'd greatly appericate it and would help with gas and stuff... grin smiley
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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 07:05 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Hey Loos15,

Welcome to My Fishing Pals. Glad to have you aboard!

I think it's easier to fish from shore on that lake then it is by boat. Last time I was there, it took me 2 hours to get the boat in. It seems that lake has way too much traffic ooo smiley



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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 09:37 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Hi Loos15,

Great to have you on the board! In the back of my mind I could remember some postings on excellent shore fishing tactics and views. An example is starting to view your car or truck as a boat and going to many different spots. Thew same technique asw fishing 8-10 honey hole spots on a lake in your boat...you are just hitting 6-7 honey spots from shore using your vehicle to go from place to place... this also lets you fish different lakes, streams, ponds, etc. very quickly if the fishing is slow where you begin fishing at.

It is the same game as fishing in a boat..just played a bit differently. I have posted a few links that will connect you to some threads and maybe give you a few good ideas of expanding the shore fishiing world.


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In addition to the many lake options available to you there is MinnehahCreek, The Mississippi, the St Croix, as well as many small streams and creeks that hold a variety of species including some good trout areas within easy driving distance. .. also check out those waters just over the Wisconsin border..several good options there. The Rush river is a small wadable creek maybe 60 miles East of the cities..between St Paul and Menomenie WI, where I have had excellent catches of rainbows and browns at times. Many smaller lakes only an hour from the cities..but getting a good deal less pressure sometimes.

Maybe the best $20 a guy could spend would be to buy a Minnesota Gazateer. They are huge 72 page long full color book type maps. It will show you in intricate detail evdry conceivable fishing location you can think of including massive listings for parks, state and national forests, a full page of unique features to Minnesota, 2 pages of campgrounds, wildlife areas by the scores, canoe trips, boat launch sites, hiking trails, and a massive fold out that gives the species of fish contained in over several hundred Minnesota waters. It will also show you all boat, canoe launces and give you the ability to spot massive numbers of shore or wade fishing areas before you ever go there. In my book that is maybe the best $20 I have ever spent. If you are so inclined to spring another $20 for the Wisconsin version as well you would then have several hundred shore/wade fishing spots located within a short distance of your home.

I also know PierBridge has had some exccellent success and results shore fishing the metro area as has Mineral Man so they may both throw in a few words and pictures of their trophys as well. I think most would agree that In Piers case some of them were GIANTS!!!

Well hopefully that will give you a few ideas to begin researching and thinking about. There are times that the shore is a better option than the boat. I use my boat a lot... but I go from shore, wade, or canoe a good bit as well. It is the same game..you just play it a bit different.

Good Fishing To Ya,

Jason "The Fisher" Pence
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 10:05 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Using your car the same as you would a boat is something that people will not usually do. The tendency is to drive to a spot and sit and hope something bites.
In the spring when I am looking for shallow water panfish shore fishing is a great option. The key is to keep trying different lakes and different spots on the those lakes if possible. Some lakes warm up faster as well as some spots within a lake so you need to explore them all and find out what is your best option. Just keep moving until you find what you are looking for just as you would in a boat.

The river is a great option for shore fishing, the Minnehaha Creek/Mississippi confluence is a great spot with alot of shore line. You can catch everything there.




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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 10:58 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Nofishfisherman,

You stated, "Using your car the same as you would a boat is something that people will not usually do. The tendency is to drive to a spot and sit and hope something bites".

And that is EXACTLY WHY most shore fishermen are catching little if anything.

It doesn't take me an hour of fishless "sitting on a spot waiting to see if something bites" from a shore site to tell if I am in the right spot or not. However, if I know the available waters within a 20 minute drive and can evaluate the dynamics of the day accurately I should be able to pretty quickly pick some spots on the same, or different, waters that up my percentages.

90% plus of fishing is understanding the seasonal migrations and patterns of fish. That is learned by studying their biology. How that plays out on specific bodies of water is the last part of the fine tuning.

For example, crappie are not normally off a deep main lake point a week after ice out...I can sit and fish there all day but I will rarely be to catch anything. However, if there is a small dark lake close by with crappie in it and several small north bays that have creeks flowing into them then THAT IS WHERE the crappie are at. If I fish that bay and catch several but something happens to slow the bite there I may jump into my car and hit another place just like it a 15 minute drive away. That is a far better plan in my opinion than just sitting there with no further results. If I am in the boat I do not sit on a spot that does not have fish there just hoping it will change. The same is true in shore fishing...why would I just sit on a dead spot and not go to different spots as I do in a boat? On bigger lakes it may be a 5-15 minute drive to the next "honey hole".. the same is true in shore fishing..except you have the added advantage of not being tied so closely to one lake as you are with a boat after you launch it.

To just go sit and walk a 50 yard patch of shore is a waste UNLESS it is at the right location for the species I am targeting, or I am just out to enjoy the day and catching anything is just a secondary thought. I know some guys may have an hour for lunch so they sit, throw out a line, eat lunch, enjoy the sun for 30 minutes and then head back to the office. That is of course a different story.

I recall many years ago I heard Doug Stange give a presentation about catching giant Walleye. Interestingy he said that he had caught over 20 walleye that tipped the scales over 10 pounds.. of those fish 3 out of every 4 walleyes over 10 pounds had come by shore fishing. (I may be slightly off on the total numbers..but I believe these were correct..and the percentages of them caught by shore fishing is exactly accurate). He said he used his car as a boat and fished feeder creeks as they dumped into lakes. He did this by picking a good walleye lake and driving around it stopping at each bridge, wading into the water, and casting big Rapala's at night. In essence he was using his car as a boat to access many excellent fishing spots in short order... and in this case it is a better way to go than in the boat. I have used the tecnique he mentioned dozens and dozens of times with great results. Certainly not 20 eyes' over 10 pounds!....but a great technique that has been successful for me as well.

So I think I stand by my original thoughts...shore fishing can be very productive..sometimes MORE productive than a boat..if you play the game right. However, if you go camp on a spot and always just hope for the best a guy will end up in the "Poor old me..I don't have a boat club."

A boat just increases your available options. A boat is not a magic bullet that makes up for the lack of knowledge of a fishes biological patterns, prey species on a lake, bottom or contour types, mastery of various lure or bait presentations, or overall adroitness at mastering the aility to read water and structure. Those are all learnable skills that translate into successful fishing outings whether it is on shore or on the deck.

I like to shore fish sometimes..sometimes it is the most successful option available...but only if you play the game right.

Good Fishing To Ya,

Jason "The Fisher" Pence
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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 11:24 AM 07/19/07 (CST)
Great post. That is exactly what I try to do mainly in the early spring when I do more shore fishing. I don't have a boat either so I am usually on shore or in a canoe or rental boat.

Usually I don't need to move between more then 2 lakes, simply becuase of what you were talking about. If you take a look at the conditions (wind, temp, water clarity, time of year) you should be able to narrow it down pretty quickly as to what few spots are your best option.

I have a few spots in mind that if the wind is right I will head out to them, if its not I will either stay home or find another option. A few times this spring down at the Minnehaha creek area I saw a good wind that pushes bait fish up into the creek mouth which means more fish so I had to change some plans so that I could get out there while the fishing was going to be good. Ended up with 5-6 smallies and a handfull of walleye in the first hour.

It pays to pay attention to the wind and go out when the conditions are right.


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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 04:54 PM 07/19/07 (CST)
Thanks for the advice guys! In a way I try to do the shore moving thing, but only on a lakes i know very well like Bush and Normandale, and it's true, i have great sucess at those lakes smile smiley. Just a week ago was at Bush lake, and was catching bass left and right near shore while the guys in the boats were staring at me hehe. Only problem is the lakes I'm not so familar with and bit more restrictive.
Well the only other lakes i've fished is Odowd and minnetonka. Hard to move around imo at Minnetonka, parking and private property. At O'dowd, lots of private property and on public land, weed growth near the shore is too thick. Not trying to make excuses...but thats what i ran into when i tried to do that at those lakes.
Also another I forgot to mention is i'm hunting walleyes. laugh smiley Besides normandale and bush, i don't touch waters thats not known to have walleye.
No luck at all this year though frown smiley even at the Mn river at Fort Snelling where i usually catch them.
I've never fished the Mississippi or St.Croix. I know how to get those those waters....but dont know where to go when i get there lol. I see those rivers when i cross highways, just don't know how to get down to them. I guess i have to be more exploratory.
Again though, thanks for the input definity will try the advices

Btw, how do i get to the minnehaha creek/confluence. I really have no idea where to even start. Been here 17 years and no idea where anything is lol.
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