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Ted
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 02:57 PM 05/30/07 (CST)
There is a ranking system out there that can actually help rank sites on the Internet... it is called Alexa. The way it works is you can install the Alexa Toolbar on your machine and everytime you come to My Fishing Pals, it gives credit to this site and ranks it a tick higher. I installed it a few months ago with no problems and I also know of a couple of other users here who use it too. Painless and it works.

If you are interested... go here...

http://www.alexa.com/site/download/?p=Dest_W_t_40_B2

Must be on Windows and use Internet Explorer... great and easy way to help this site out!


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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 06:14 PM 05/30/07 (CST)
The current Alexa ranking is 79,351 which is pretty good for a state specific (usually) site.

Especially true because catch-n.com is ranked 79,430... does this mean that most people that visit here visit there and the same the other way? wink smiley

If webdude were using this site to make a living, the ranking would mean a lot more, especially for advertisers looking for a site with good traffic. Since everyone's here for fun.. the ranking is just something cool to know.



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 08:16 PM 05/30/07 (CST)
Okay, I loaded it...

Question. It gives me the ability to hide it if I wish. Does it still track the clicks to this this and other sites?




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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 06:32 AM 05/31/07 (CST)
So what exactly is it and is it safe?


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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 07:38 AM 05/31/07 (CST)
I think I can answer this one...

Alexa has been around for quite a while. Yes, it is safe. I actually have it loaded on one of my machines. It also has generated some controversy amongst marketing types and developers. It is very similar to the Google toolbar but is used for different purposes.

The way it works is it keeps a running total on all sites that get clicks from users who have the toolbar installed. It then uses a formula to rank the site according to how many Alexa users have visited that site. So, if 1% of all Internet users use the toolbar, they assume that a site that gets clicked by 10 of these toolbar users would actually have 1000 users in general. It then takes all sites that get clicked and ranks them. It will only show rank if the site is listed in the top 100,000 sites. So, this site is currently ranked 79,351 out of ALL the sites on the Internet, according to Alexa. This is a very simplistic example, but basically how it works. There might be other algorithms involved, but I am trying to keep this simple. It also shows a variety of stats on a site besides rank. The traffic rank is based on three months of aggregated historical traffic data from Alexa Toolbar users and is a combined measure of page views and users (this is called reach). Reach measures the number of users. Reach is typically expressed as the percentage of all Internet users who visit any given site.

Now the controversy is three-fold. First, most people who have the toolbar installed would be webby types and these people have a tendency to visit certain types of sites. This would have a tendency to skew the results. If a large percentage of the users of the toolbar hung around forums for marketing and web development, then those sites would, of course, rank higher. But there may be other sites that actually get more visitors, just not visitors that use the toolbar. A case in point is that if you try to get the stats for Alexa itself, they don't show them. The reason for this is that almost ALL users who visit that site would have the toolbar installed and it would show Alexa as being ranked #1. I know for a fact that Alexa is not the number 1 site out on the Internet. Some see this as a fatal flaw in the formula.

The second part of the controversy is that savvy webmasters have shown that the toolbar stats can be manipulated. By running certain types of scripts, auto-refreshes and so forth, there have been webmasters that have effectively taken relatively dead sites and have got them fairly high in the Alexa rankings. Anything for a buck, I guess.

And last, the toolbar can only be installed on Windows and used by the Explorer browser. This pretty much eliminates any stats from people who use Mac, Linux or other operating systems. Granted, about 90% of the users out there are on Windows with Explorer, but there are quite a few sites that probably should be ranked a lot higher then they are because most of them would be visited by people who use these other platforms. Mac or Linux forums would be a good example.

Regardless of the controversy, there are a lot of marketing and advertising types who do place some worth in the stats. To be ranked high in Alexa may garner more advertising revenue and that is becoming big business on the Web these days. It also seems that a high ranking in Alexa may be sort of a prestige thing among the webby types. There have actually been mini Alexa wars to see who can get their site ranked higher in Alexa.

So, does this help with this site? It could. If you got the site ranked high enough, some may place more import on the site. You have to remember that Alexa is also a search engine and to rank well may attract some new users. One thing that a lot of people don't know is that Alexa was bought out by Amazon. Mmmmm I wonder why a retailer would want to buy Alexa? Huh?

Alexa also keeps lists of the top 100, the "Movers and Shakers," etc. To be put on one of those lists would definitely increase traffic immensely.

So, use it if you want. Might be fun to see what happens. Just think, if we could get all the fishermen in Minnesota to install it on their computers, then Minnesota fishing sites could outrank Google and Yahoo on the WWW... now that would be a hoot, wouldn't it? The Internet being taken over by a bunch of fishermen smile smiley smile smiley smile smiley

I can see the headlines in Forbes Magazine and the Wall Street Journal now...





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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 08:16 AM 05/31/07 (CST)
Now, if I actually used Internet Exploder for anything I might have installed the Alexa Toolbar wink smiley I'll stick to Firefox.. I don't trust IE farther than I can throw Rosie O'Donnell



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MuskiePhil
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 05:43 PM 06/18/07 (CST)
I'd use it but i use firefox on a mac


Great site for lake maps and fishing info
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