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Reef Em
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 11:46 AM 05/10/07 (CST)
How long of a leader do you run when drifting for walleyes? I usually run one about 7-8 feet. But I have also caught alot of fish on 2-3'. Sometimes it makes a huge difference, other times not so much.
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 12:50 PM 05/10/07 (CST)
It all depends on what the fish want.I like 3-6 foot schnells.On MilleLacs 8 foot is my go to length.
On the river 3 foot works well.



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 01:04 PM 05/10/07 (CST)
Hey Reef Em,

The first criteria in the progression of finding fish is depth.

With that in mind the answer to your question is totally variable depending on the fish location. If the fish are suspended 7 feet above the bottom then a 3 foot leader will pass well under them and very few hook ups will be had. In that case you might be better served with a 7-10 foot leader with a floating jig head..or small in line float a foot or so before the bait. This would put the bait passing through the school suspended at around 7 feet.

Conversely, if the fish are hugging the bottom a longer leader may well let the bait pass above their strike zone..or worse, even out of their sight.

First find the depth the fish are at and then adjust you leader length and material accordingly. If you are on very clear water then line visibility might become a factor as well. If you are concerned about that then here is one helpful solution. Use whatever walleye line you are comfortable with and set you leader length at the necessary length and material to keep you in their strike zone. Then use a double uni knot and tie a small section..say 12 inches or so...of fluorocarbon line to the end of your main line and then finally your hook and bait at the other end of the fluorocarbon. This lets you have virtual invisibility at the bait...which is a tremendous help. It also allows you the ability to have whatever length of leader you need and fish the main line of whatever walleye line you have greatest confidence in. This is a killer rig!

If the water is darker or stained then using the fluorocarbon for the last foot or so probably doesn't matter. However, if you fish any clear waters it is well worth the effort to learn the double uni and use it.

Good Fishing To Ya,

Jason "The Fisher" Pence
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 01:21 PM 05/10/07 (CST)
I'm glad you got into more detail Jason.
I'm in total agreement.
What about ..what's on the end of the schnell.
Beads,spinners,hook,floaters?
What colors do you like to use ?

What about spinner sizes and styles like colorado vs. willow?



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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 09:29 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
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Good questions. Hmm.... well, after a cold front, in the early spring, or in ultra clear waters I have done exceptionally well with a single colored bead in front of a hook with live bait. Will catch anything that swims.. but is dynamite for walleye and smallmouth in particular.

Normally I use the rule of thumb that the clearer the water is the smaller the size of spinner and natural colors are the first choice. Silver, gold, copper, red/white, yellow/white are successful "go to" colors in clear water for me. One I have done particularly well on is the white/green stripe in clear water. Of course the natural "real bait" blades work especially well in clear water also.

Darker water means more color to me. Hot oranges, charteruse, black/chart, firetigers, glo finishes. My experience has also been that bigger blades tend to do better in darker waters as they put off more vibration and are easier for fish to find.

The hatchet spinners have on occasion been a very successful option. When the fish are sluggish and you must use a much slower presentation the hatchet blade lets you drift/troll at a much slower speed and still get blade rotation.

Here is a snippet from the article I wrote called "Magic Hat Tricks At Mayfly Hatch Time" that details a great technique with spinners in the hatch... following is the snippet....

" Take a spinner rig with a VERY SMALL spinner blade on the rig. Use a 1 hook rig with NO FLOAT. On the hook put about a 1 1/2 to 2 inch piece of crawler. I like to use a bottom bouncer with this set up as it keeps it a foot or so off the bottom. SLOWLY backtroll, drift, or whatever means is allowed on that body of water. The little tiny spinner with the 2 inch crawler looks A WHOLE LOT like a mayfly hatching and swirling up. Just like what they have been seeing and eating--a little color on the spinner blade makes yours a little more visible (and I think desirable) than the competition food. There are a couple of things to keep in mind:

1. Keep the speed of movement real slow, just enough to keep the blade fluttering and spinning.

2. My experience has been that if you can find grass patches at the edge of the flats, or areas where the hatch is at, then you have found the magic magnet. Hope this puts a few in the livewell for you if you have to fish the hatch. It has helped me to get limits a few times when others went home empty."

I love spinner rigs.. they are obviosly one of the best options around for walleye. There is a reason the guys winning the PWTA are pulling spinners a lot of the time. But spinner rigs also catch about everything that swims. You get a great many bonus fish when using spinners.

The colorado is one I use most often. The willow allows you to keep the line closer to the bottom normally as the drag is less. I occasionally use the willow if the fish are right against the bottom...but it is not the one I have most confidence in.

I probably tip 95% of the time with live bait.

Whether it is pulling a spinner rig, or sitting dead on a spot with live bait on a lindy with one single bead..or anywhere in between.. the guy who can master several of these basic presentations and discern the most effective one to use on a given body of water, at a given time, is the guy who will most consistenly boat good numbers of fish when other guys go home with nothing to show for the day but a tan.

They are all exellent choices at times. They are ALL the best presentation choice under certain circumstances. There are times where one of those presentation styles will totally outfish the others. It is the ability to discern which is the better option under the circumstances of that body of water on that particular day that determines if a guy catches many or few fish.

So what has been your experience with the lindy and spinner type presentations?

Good Fishin To Ya,

Jason "The Fisher" Pence

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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 10:03 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
Have any of you BSL fisherman ever tried a crawler harness with a spinner and a crawler? I haven't ever used them on BSL, just wondering how that might work?


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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 10:22 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
SB & I won the tournement there last year with lindy's and crawlers.



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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 10:58 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
I have seen some crawler harnesses sold lately that don't have a bead or a spinner on them. Its my understanding that these would be illegal since you would be fishing mulitple hooks without it being a lure. If you buy a new crawler harness make sure it has the spinner in order to make it a lure which then makes it legal to fish mulitple hooks.


Reef Em
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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 11:25 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
Some good info here!!

I use a bare hook with a green bead...never been a real fan of the spinners.
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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 11:36 AM 05/11/07 (CST)
BD, Let me know when your ready to set the bobber down and go fish with the real men/boys and I will give you my personal lesson via the Pro-V and a custom rod.
I fish these rigs a lot and I can get you on the right track.




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