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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 09:25 AM 04/21/07 (CST)
i am a recent transplant from south florida. bass fishing is really all i know from the everglades. i moved up last june and fished bass quite successfully and walleye action was good in lake waconia. i want to go crappie fishing but not exactly sure how to start or what i should be looking for to target these fish. i am good with plastics,jigs, etc... should i try casting for them or use live bait with a slip bobber. any info would be greatly appreciated.i have been reading this site for the past year and love it. crappie keith is the man from what i see on crappie's. help me keith.
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 09:57 AM 04/21/07 (CST)
Geo,Im no crappie guy but I do pretty good when I try for them,sounds like your right on target with the plastics. I rarely use live bait but it works.I use 1 or 2 inch tubes or grubs in various colors and will throw hair jigs at them also!
Oh I also use small spinnerbaits and cranks when Iam looking for bigger than average size.



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 10:11 AM 04/21/07 (CST)
Where are you fishing?

I'd be happy to try to help you out.

Here's how my 1st outing was yesterday.
So last night I get to the spot and as usual for the 7th straight year everything plays out like normal.
I did talk to a local that said the ice went out on tues. so now it's fri.
& the fish are in.
Just like always I could not find them anywhere ,but where the turtles hang out.
We had been work some deeper water & all of a sudden some pike chases a school of crappie across the surface of the water right next to the shore.
Dude I exclaimed,did you see those crappie backs.Ya he said.Pull anchor I ordered and we slid in to them.
It was getting late ,but as the years have shown me I'll get a few & a few I did.
Rolled a couple too,Rick did as well but he caught that pike up there.We were using 64th oz.hair jigs with nothing on them & a bobber 1 foot above the jig.Working 2-3 F.O.W.

So it rained last night & is right now ,but it should taper off.
This is good for the water level plus it will help that water warm up.
Shoot there was still ice on the main lake floating around & piled up on the shore.
As we decided to leave & hit the mouth of the creek I nailed a nice bass that spun my skiff around. Too fun & you should have seen the creek boiling with fish migrating through.
I get freakin excited when I see this movement.
We had to push fish outta the way to get through the dang thing.
I'm not kidding when I say the whole creek was boiling with fish.
It was also loaded with minnows so those fish must follow them in to the other side.
I've seen this 3 years in a row on the 3rd day after ice out right at dusk.
It's like clockwork almost.
I'll be going back in today around 2 bells and this time we will hook up on several fish.
By this time next weekend it'll be one of those fish outttings between 2 guys.
Now where's my advil?
I'm not kidding when I say you can get a sore elbow from the fighting!
This is just the begging with a thousand fish to catch before walleye openers!
Oh,T.H.E. Jig ROCKS!

Hoggie saw this yesterday with guys pulling up and getting one here and there while he was smokin the fish 1 after another.
He has had 2 weeks of open water & the water is warmer so the fish are a tad more agressive.
I'm just getting into open water & the temp is 40 degree water.
Most guys for this 1st week will have a tough time catching 10 while Rick & I will be in constant doubles!

It's all about downsizing for these next 3 weeks.Once that water hits 55-65 you can go bigger ,but not now.
I'll be back with pictures and video from this weekend to show you what I'm talking about.
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 09:09 PM 04/21/07 (CST)
Hey geo,

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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 09:33 PM 04/21/07 (CST)
thanks guys!! i live in victoria. i fish waconia quite a bit. had real good luck there for bass and even got into some ice fishing and had good luck also. i fish steiger and minewashta also. any info on these lakes anyone? i am headed out sunday to steiger. i'll use plastics to start and go from there. any time of day better than the other?
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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 09:41 PM 04/21/07 (CST)
Hey geo,

I used to fish Waconia all the time. Mostly for 'Eyes. Can be hard to find, but once you do, it's a blast!

Shoot a report here, once in a while... smile smiley



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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 10:51 PM 04/21/07 (CST)
geo,
Welcome the MFP, Happy to see you here!!



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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 07:56 AM 04/23/07 (CST)
Well,how'd you do?



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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 03:38 PM 04/23/07 (CST)
not good. saw nothing happening or moving in the lake. my sons bobber went down once but pulled in a mangled minnow. fished in 5-8 ft of water. through plastics, little spinners and nothing. water temp was 55 degrees. will head out to waconia this weekend and surely do better. weeds were a problem already. kind of surprising. when i am casting plastics should i be on the bottom or in the water column somewhere??
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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 03:50 PM 04/23/07 (CST)
What do you mean casting plastics?
You should be a foot down.
I'd get some 64th oz jigs and some small tube crappie plastics.
Then find some structure. like reed from last year or trees in the water .Maybe in 2-4 FOW.
Go find the creek and see if there are minnows there.Work that area.

Here's a six-point plan used by expert crappie anglers that can put you on the schools.

THINK INSIDE OUT
The normal movement of crappie from their deeper water homes to their shallow spawning areas is just that - deep to shallow. That's also how most anglers deal with this time of year. They begin by searching the open waters, and if they don't find fish there, they move shallow. Savvy anglers do things in reverse.


Spring offers the best time of year to hook some real slabs, provided you know when and where to toss your bait or lure.

Locating spawning areas first means that you have just eliminated a lot of deeper waters that you do not have to look through. If you know where the crappies will wind up, you are likely to find them in open water nearby.

If you are familiar with the lake, head to the traditional bedding areas that are used year after year. If it is unfamiliar water, there are alternatives. Fish camps and bait stores are good ones. They can often provide tips for key areas where crappies spawn. State fisheries biologists are another. Many do tagging and research studies during the spring months when crappies are concentrated into narrow areas.

Regardless of how you acquire the data, the information is important. It tells you which areas of the lake you need to concentrate your efforts on and eliminates a lot of non-productive water.
Once you find the spawning sites, you can begin backtracking to the open water haunts.

FIND THE STAGING POINTS
Locating traditional spawning areas is step one. If the fish are there, things are good. However, if the crappie have yet to arrive, or have backed off because of a cold front, then it is important to find the staging points the fish use in their travels from the mid-lake to the shallows.

Crappie do not make an overnight movement from open waters to the spawning shallows. They do it in stages. How long those stages take depends upon the weather. But the deep-to-shallow movement of the fish does have distinct stops along the way.

Just where they stop depends upon the type of water they inhabit. But there are certain key areas to look for.

On a shallow, soup-bowl-shaped lake, look for crappie to pause at the deeper edge of any vegetation line. These can be composed of native weeds, or introduced hydrilla and milfoil. Either way, a distinct break line between open mid-lake waters and the spawning shallows is the key.

Reservoirs, especially those with a pronounced main channel, often see crappie stacking up on any channel swings, drops or ledges. If this situation occurs within a couple hundred yards of the known spawning site, it's worth exploring. If the site has wood structure, don't pass it up.

Crappie love wood whenever they are in their pre-spawn or post-spawn phases. A fallen tree, some brushtop or a planted brushpile can be the five-star hotel along any section of channel drop. Find that piece of wood on the contour break and you have likely found a key staging point for crappie.

Locating staging points is important for pre-spawn fish, but it's equally important for post-spawn crappie or even slabs simply affected by a sudden cold front. As they back out of the shallows, they go to those staging points.

STAY MOBILE
Once the spawning areas and staging points are found, locating schools is much simpler. Crappie fishing can be a pretty laidback affair once you find the fish. Still, given that the fish are tightly schooled during the spawning season, there is a lot of water out there that holds no crappie. Experts have learned that staying on the move and covering water quickly is the best bet for finding them.

Whether you are fishing shallow spawning cover or open water, a trolling motor is a major asset. Savvy anglers use it to move at a steady pace through shallow cover. If the cover is sparse, ultra-light spinning gear with Beetle Spin-type lures can fish a lot of water. In heavier cover, a cane pole allows you to quickly dip a jig or minnow fished under a float into available openings.

Open water anglers should add a depthfinder to the mix. Combined with a trolling motor, a depthfinder allows you to systematically check various depths while highlighting drops, ledges and submerged brushpiles.

Once the first crappie is found, drop a marker buoy to pinpoint the spot and stay on the school.

LURES OR BAIT?
The next decision is whether to fish with a jig or live baitfish. Crappie take small plastic jigs, jig-and-spinner combos and live minnows. But the one you chose to try often makes the difference between a good day and a great one.

Lures are often better for quickly covering shallow spawning areas, and they can enable you to find fish fast. If water temperatures are warm, they may also be the best choice for filling the fish box.

In sparse cover, a 1/32- or 1/16-ounce Beetle Spin is an outstanding, although often overlooked, lure. Relatively weedless, it can cover a lot of water quickly, and few veterans start their search without one rigged on an ultra-light rod.

If fish are located over a relatively clean bottom, shifting to a bare jig can often be a better bet, especially in clearer water. Crawled slowly over spawning beds, it's an offering few bedding crappie can resist.

In heavier cover, slipping a bare jig onto a cane pole under a float is a surprisingly quick way to probe small openings. Crappie normally strike the jig as it drops after it hits the water. Let it sink and twitch it twice, and if nothing happens hit another opening.

If the water is cooler, however, a live minnow is normally a better bet. These can be fished on a small gold hook or tipped onto a jighead.

In open water situations, savvy anglers fare better by mixing the bait selection - bare jigs, minnow-tipped jigs or just minnows. Crappie can be surprisingly finicky, and you often have to let the fish tell you what they want. It is best to have both bait and lures on hand.

BE COLOR CONSCIOUS
Few fish are as color-selective as crappie, and their preference can change during the day. While every lake may have its "favorite" jig color combo, it is best to have a number of hues on hand.

In turbid waters, high visibility colors like pink, yellow, fluorescent chartreuse and pearl white are often the most effective, while clearer water calls for black, brown, green or pumpkinseed.

Regardless of which is working, however, when the action slows it is wise to start experimenting with different colors. That can often re-trigger the bite after the school has had a long look at the previous color.

BE VERSATILE
No other season of the year tests crappie anglers as does spring. Unstable weather may have fish shallow, deep, in between, or moving to or from those depths.

Experienced anglers know that they need a mix of cane poles and ultra-light gear to allow them to drift open water, work brushpiles, or probe the spawning shallows. Even then, bait can outperform lures on one day and the reverse occur the next.

Those anglers who experience consistent success are the ones rigged and ready to handle multiple techniques. They also are the ones adding extra ice to the cooler and sharpening their filleting knives.



I found this searching yahoo under crappie tips
I'm not in total agreement with everything ,but to get you started this was chocled full of different ways to get crappies.



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