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Msg 1 Posted: 05:57 AM 04/13/07 (CST)
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I would like to see a thread started by walleye fisherman who use plastics and have success with them. The problem that I have is that because of my current situation I get my leeches and crawlers for free so I have little incentive to spend money on the hundreds of different plastics out there. I believe that the day will come where live bait will be frowned upon or even banned and I like to catch up on what works and what doesn't in plastics.
With live bait, there are tried and true circumstances in what to use and when. I would like to see if that's true with plastics. It could save guys a lot of time and money to know what works and what doesn't in different situations. Any thoughts?
The secret to fishing is to catch the biggest fish and to catch it early.
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Msg 2 Posted: 07:22 AM 04/13/07 (CST)
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Hey gunflint,
I used to fish the Whiteface chain quite a bit using plasitcs for walleyes. I was pretty successful at it too. I would take a floating jighead with a sinker and a Mister Twister. The trick for success was two-fold. First, you had to get the thing to ride in the water correctly. It worked best if the hook eye rode facing down. Next was the colors. I used orange or brown jigheads with twisters that had brown bodies and orange tails. I must have caught hundreds of 'eyes this way, trolling from a boat. When they weren't hungry, you would pull the twisters in and the tails would be missing and you would have to slow down to coax them to bite. If they were hungry, it was all over. I tried a bunch of different colors, but these were the ones that worked best. Seems to tell me this method would work on other lakes, too, but you would probably have to find the right combination of colors for that particular body of water. These weren't the long twisters, but the short ones... about 2 and half inches long.
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Msg 3 Posted: 12:38 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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Plastics work in almost all situations for walleys. I fish plastics or hair jigs 90% of the time. When fishing shallow (15 feet of less) i usually cast 1/8 once jig and plastic and work it very aggressivly, just bumping bottom once in a while. When fishing deeper i like to slow troll the plastics on heavier jigs like 3/8 or 1/2. I like to use a variety of plastics, the 3 inch twister tails work well, but i like to upsize to 6 inch ribbed lizards or 5 inch leach plastics. My go to colors are white, purple, pink, or green. Often times when the fish slow down, just changing colors of profile will get a few more fish.
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Msg 4 Posted: 01:12 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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I just started to use plastics this past summer. I use 6 inch plastic crawlers on a 3 hook worm harness and a bottom bouncer. It is the same as if using real worms while lindy rigging. Instead of a real worm I use the plastic worm. Some colors are better than others but the natural color seems to work well. The best thing about plastic worms is when sunfish, perch, or any other small fish decides to pick at the bait the plastic stays on the hook unlike a real worm.
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Msg 5 Posted: 06:57 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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I catch hundreds of walleyes every year on sassy shad type of plastics.
In this pic I'm holding a bag in my left hand.
I use a 1/4 oz.jig & troll the breaks in & around 10 FOW.
When I fish the rivers I'll cast in the eddies. If they are in there ,I'll get'em.
The trick is in the retrieval speed.
http://www.bucketrack.com/THEJig.html
IF IT'S WET...IT'S CATCH'N FISH
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Msg 6 Posted: 07:38 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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CrappieKieth,
Please tell me more about retrieval speed. I guess what I'm looking for is more detailed info on plastics. (who isn't) Anyway what I mean for instance, in stained water under 60 degrees what type of plastics work and what doesn't? In semi-stained water between 60 and 70 degrees and so on. I'm not looking for secrets per se. Just seasonal standards for plastics.
The secret to fishing is to catch the biggest fish and to catch it early.
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Msg 7 Posted: 07:43 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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In your neck of the woods anything white is killer right?
In 10 FOW I'll count down to 8 then make 1 turn per 2 seconds.If I tick the bottom I'll speed up a hair.
pump the rod tip every 3 turns too.Drop the rod tip then lift.
http://www.bucketrack.com/THEJig.html
IF IT'S WET...IT'S CATCH'N FISH
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Msg 8 Posted: 08:34 PM 04/13/07 (CST)
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Gunflint
Retrieval speed in my opinion is based on water temps The colder the water the slower the presentation. I find with plastics the lighter jig head gives it more action
Higher water temps speed up and try to swim the baits stoping your retrieve once in awile let it fall back to bottom and start again.
Just some of the ways I like to fish plastics been kinda successful with them. Good luck
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Msg 9 Posted: 01:03 AM 04/14/07 (CST)
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Gunflint,
Excellent question. I'm not much of a walleye fisherman but I do use nothing but artificial lures when I fish. I have had a lot of success on walleyes using soft plastics. In most situations I have just stumbled into them fishing for bass. One set up I use a lot is the drop shot rig. In case you don't know that is, it's when you tie your hook about 10-15 inches above your weight. I tip the hook with lots of different soft plastics but the one that sticks out the most for catching walleyes is a 3 inch Gary Yamamoto senko in the pearl color. Again I am usually fishing for deep bass and stumble across the eyeballs. Although more often than not I catch numerous numbers of them. Another nice thing about that rig is that you can actually power fish that setup and move water instead of just killing to much time.
As far as speed goes I would just try to allow the fish to tell you. My general rule for myself is start average and work slower until you find what works. Good luck!
Josh
www.joshdouglasfishing.com
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Msg 10 Posted: 01:39 PM 04/14/07 (CST)
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I also have nailed many eyes on the drop shot rig,but I have noticed that they were fairly aggressive, most of the time Ill use a c-rigged jerk bait. Ill twich and pause till I find the right amount action they seem to want.My color prefrence is white,chart,brown and black.This presentation holds up most of the season!
Al "Twitch" Ansell
Multispecies .com
2007,08 Duluth Area Bass League President
Ultimate Angler Challenge .com
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