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Joined 12/09/2004

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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 11:05 PM 09/06/06 (CST)
I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. No where did they sing it in Italian, Japanese, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German, Portuguese, Greek, French, or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close. Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY - IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP ---- please pass this along~

I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA!


Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone-----YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM !!!!

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????

Think about it!

All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS? We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with
that. This says it all! This is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He
did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!


I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However...... the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up
of descendants of immigrants.

However, there are a
few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity.

As Americans.....we have our own culture, our own
society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Greek, Polish, Italian, French, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society,
learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not
some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles............. founded this nation..... and
this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home.........because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle
Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to
another part of this planet We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First
Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so! But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping.......about our flag......our pledge......our national motto.......or our way of life...I highly encourage you to take advantage of one other Great American Freedom....


It is Time for America to Speak up
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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 07:36 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
Have you heard the translation? They changed the meaning of the song in spots. They even changed the title to "Our Anthem." ooo smiley

Where is the "rocket's red glare" and the "bombs bursting in air" ????

"The land of the the free and the home of the brave?"

As a side note, the great-great grandson of the original songwriter, Francis Scott Key, is not pleased with the interpretation of the song, which features artists such as Wyclef Jean, hip-hop star Pitbull and Carlos Ponce and Olga Tanon from Puerto Rico.

You decide....

Lyrics to 'Nuestro Himno' ('Our Anthem')
Verso 1

Amanece, lo veis?, a la luz de la aurora?
lo que tanto aclamamos la noche al caer?
sus estrellas sus franjas
flotaban ayer
en el fiero combate
en señal de victoria,
fulgor de lucha, al paso de la libertad.
Por la noche decían:
"Se va defendiendo!"
Oh decid! Despliega aún
Su hermosura estrellada
sobre tierra de libres,
la bandera sagrada?

Verso 2

Sus estrellas, sus franjas,
la libertad, somos iguales.
Somos hermanos. Es nuestro himno.
En el fiero combate en señal de victoria,
Fulgor de lucha
(Mi gente sigue luchando)
al paso de la libertad
(Ya es tiempo de romper las cadenas.)
Por la noche decían: "!Se va defendiendo!"
Oh decid! Despliega aún su hermosura estrellada
sobre tierra de libres,
la bandera sagrada?

English translation:

Verse 1

It's sunrise. Do you see by the light of the dawn
What we proudly hailed last nightfall?
Its stars, its stripes
yesterday streamed
above fierce combat
a symbol of victory
the glory of battle, the march toward liberty.
Throughout the night, they proclaimed: "We will defend it!"


Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave
above the land of the free,
the sacred flag?

Verse 2

Its stars, its stripes,
Liberty, we are the same.
We are brothers in our anthem.
In fierce combat, a symbol of victory
the glory of battle,
(My people fight on)
the march toward liberty.
(The time has come to break the chains.)
Throughout the night they proclaimed: "We will defend it!"
Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave
above the land of the free,
the sacred flag?

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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 07:48 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
I couldn't agree more. I tell you, If I went to Germany or France. I would need to learn their language and conform to their culture. Why should our country be any different? Do you know how much money was spent on our Light Rail system so the kiosks could have multiple languages in them? Millions! Do you know how much we spend on providing government documents in foreign languages? Billions! I tell you people, this problem is gonna suck us dry, and I don't mean just money... our culture too mad smiley


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Joined 08/17/2004

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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 07:54 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
I read an article somewhere that predicts our national language will be Spanish by the year 2020. We better get to school so we can conform!

Joined 06/30/2005

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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 08:22 AM 09/07/06 (CST)

I am going to have to assume that you don't travel much outside of the United States based off your comment.

" tell you, If I went to Germany or France. I would need to learn their language and conform to their culture. Why should our country be any different? Do you know how much money was spent on our Light Rail system so the kiosks could have multiple languages in them? "

If you went to Germany or France everyone would pretty much already speak English and there is almost no culture shock so you wouldn't need to worry about a thing. Also in almost every other airport, metro station, bus station, train station in the world the ticket machines are in like 8 different languages, I have seen alot that the first language used in English and you have to change it if you want the language of the country you are actually in.

Americans have it so easy when it comes to language, we expect everyone to speak english while in the US but when we go outside of the US we never have to worry about changing our language.

When a person comes here legally and has yet to learn the language I give them some slack, alot of them come here to get an education which is something they lack back home, learning and language is not as easy as you all may think it is.

Also when speaking about the Hmong population that is prevelent in MN you also have to realize that it takes them a really long time to learn English becuase their own language didn't even exist in written form until like 20 years ago so most don't know how to read and write, not from any fault of their own there just wasn't anything to read or write until just recently. Imagine trying to learn a new language if you haven't even learned to read and write your native language yet.

I am not saying illegal immigration is fine, or that there are no problems but I think you need to know personally what these people face day to day to understand them before you judge them.

Joined 06/30/2005

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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 08:31 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
this problem is gonna suck us dry, and I don't mean just money... our culture too

Where do you think our culture came from? It came form 230 years of immigration into this country. And everytime a new group starts coming in greater numbers they are criticised and looked down upon. It happened all the time when the Irish were coming, when the Polish were coming when all of your ancestors were coming and now its happening again only now its us that don't want the hispanic immigrants.

They have as much right to come here as your grand parents or great grand parents did, unless our country has changed its principles since then.

Joined 07/18/2004

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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 08:52 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
Okay, I agree those were not very good examples. How about Mexico? I went down there and had a heck of a time trying to use English. If I moved down there, I would definitely need to learn Spanish.

And it really is not a personal thing.

Look... a little story that will put this in perspective, at least it did for me...

A couple of years ago, the school system that my daughter goes to decided that they were not going to use Christmas or Easter in any of their literature or anything else for that matter. Christmas Holiday became winter holiday. Easter break became whatever. Didn't want to offend anyone from any other cultures, don't you see. Diversity is how things should be. Okay, I am a Christian and I found this offensive, but what the heck... if that's the way they want it, so be it. In fact, several of the teachers (one I think got fired) were reprimanded for talking about anything that had to do with anything that was Christian. Oh well, I guess that's the way it is going to be now.

Anyway, last year, my daughter came home wearing some funny looking head gear with a bunch of literature on the Hindus and the sacred cow and I came to find out that the WHOLE school was immersed for a WHOLE day on Hindus, India, the cow, etc. They had religious leaders from this "culture" in talking to the kids, giving slide presentations, yada yada yada...

Well, I get a little peoed over this. I called the school and was given the usual about diversity, and how the kids should learn about different cultures, etc. So I asked, why can't they have a day in which to study about Christianity? You know what I was told? "Well they get enough of that at home and we want to expose them to other types of religions and cultures." I called the Board of education, I called the superindendant, I called everybody!?!?!?! I was hot! mad smiley

Here was a system that would not allow the use of any word that had to do with Christianity. All records struck from their books. No teachers allowed to utter Christmas, Easter, "under GOD" for GOD's sake! What is going on here people! I do not approve.

It seems the pendulum has swung a bit to far, as far as I am concerned. I don't mind other cultures. I don't mind living with other people of other faiths. But when something that is as public as the public school system sytematically erases any type of connection to a particular faith and then forces other stuff into the heads of 8 year old children... well this is just downright WRONG.

I have been exploring the idea of private school, but I just can't afford it. Anyway, my taxes are paying for that public school, yet I have absolutely no say in what is being done over there. I am praying for vouchers, but to tell you the truth, these schools get money based on the number of students they have... and since this is a government entity and it is all about the mighty buck, it ain't gonna happen.

This is where diversity has got us. Running away from our roots. Afraid to think or be what we are. Trying to be politically correct. Do NOT offend anyone or take responsibilty for anything. There is something that is not quite right here folks... and we are losing the ability to do something about it every day.

I think this goes a bit deeper then just language.


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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 09:10 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
I agree that situation you described is frustrating. I am a christian and i don't like what they have done with the christmas and easter thing in the classroom. I agree that if you learn about other religions then christianity should be in there as well.

But I don't think the issue is becuase we have diverse classrooms. I think diverse classrooms are good for the kids.
Don't blame the diversity, blame the poloticans that don't know how to deal with diversity. Blame the ACLU that seems to hate christianity but wants to make sure we are all force fed every other religion and ideaology known to man.

Its not the culutral groups causing this particular issue is just the simple fact that we are in an over sensitive environment that doesn't deal well with differences, hopefully someday it won't be an issue and we can all live together and learn from each other.

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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 09:17 AM 09/07/06 (CST)
there is an article on diversity located here.

Here is the rebuttal... Very well written...

Rebuttal: Diversity Being Taught In Classrooms
May 6, 2004

Ambria Lee’s article: “The Advantages of Diversity in the Classroom”, though well intentioned; stands as a glowing testament to liberalism and extreme leftist ideology.

Ms. Lee begins: “I believe teaching diversity in the classroom will result in a healthier classroom.” Although she does not specify what type of health, it would not matter, because public schools have been shoving diversity down the gullets of little kids for some time now. We all have seen the results of multiculturalism in education. These results have not been good.

She wrote: “Though diversity should begin at home, this is not always the case.” And, in my opinion, it never should be the case. The home is where a child learns his roots and culture and morals and religious faith. The home is the first place to learn respect for Mom and Dad. The home is the first place to learn how to share and be friendly and loving among family members. A public school classroom is no place for individual cultural growth.

My parents did not waste any time teaching me about being anything except American. I was born in America, raised an American and went to school to learn how to be the best possible American I could be. I learned the Pledge of Allegiance, The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights and American History. Multiculturalism and diversity do not teach those things to American children anymore.

Ms. Lee continues: “Every day children in the classrooms are within reach of all different types of multiplicity, and they gain knowledge of how to accept differences. The children learns by experiencing what other children have to offer and act upon those experiences for a better understanding of how to deal with every day differences.”

I see diversity as a natural process. It is not something taught, but gained through the very thing Ms. Lee writes of. We have all gained life experience with diverse people. Every person we’ve met has impacted our life in some way. We’ve formed our opinions not by group fiat, but by individual association. We have all learned to hate stupidity, no matter what the racial or cultural background it is being emitted from. But what we know of diversity, we have discovered for ourselves. We’ve needed no teachers to form our views for us.

Ms. Lee writes: “Children learn hands-on in the classroom setting about the different backgrounds of their peers by accepting all various types of diversity.” I cannot believe this is a good thing. Not all types of diversity are acceptable. There are children who curse; who have sex at young ages; and who do drugs and alcohol because they come from such diverse backgrounds. Ms. Lee believes, “the classroom is an ideal place for [children] to begin” learning diversity; that the “classroom is where children begin to understand that there may be distinctions” such as “race, religion, or culture.” Again, I would have to disagree. A school classroom is no place to instruct children about their own race, religion, culture or anyone else’s. That is the duty of parents toward their children.

Ms. Lee wrote: “Every time a teacher walks into the room, that teacher also brings in culture, opinions and character.” And here is the problem. Teachers have no right to bring their personal culture, opinions and character into a math or science class, or a literature or language class. Teachers should keep all opinions to themselves and teach their subjects. There is far too much opining going on in biology and health classes.

Ms. Lee: “Teachers have more opportunities to teach the characteristics of cultures.” And I would ask what cultural characteristics have to do with learning how to read and speak the American language, or understanding the Bill of Rights?

It is this next paragraph by Ms. Lee that is perhaps the most damaging: “Not only does the teacher bring in diversity as in political opinions and sexual orientation, but also their invisible diversity, such as ethnicity; such as racial characteristics; teaching and learning styles, family history, and their individual self- perceptions.” This paragraph seems to claim a value to all that. Is this what education must become? Education must involve and include politics, sexual orientation and individual self- perception?


None of that should be any part of a standard curriculum. Every English teacher, even having the same textbook would be teaching well away from the subject by including all the aforementioned “diversity” gobbledygook. Multicultural education has thrown away too many important standards; replacing strict standards of testable achievement with the lesser suggestive standards of “as-long-as-you-feel-good- about-yourself-ism.” Children cannot read or write or do simple math, but they know all about leftist political posturing and acceptance of alternative lifestyles.

Ms. Lee says: “If there is no diversity in the classroom, then the school would be chaotic and then this would spill over into the outside world.” And I would suggest it is this very thing that is causing all the chaos in today’s public schools. Children are not being brought up to love and respect this country. They are being taught that countries that rape and torture women; that strap bombs on children; that kill innocent people; that accept dictatorship and slavery; that are communist and socialist and fascist are as culturally worthy of note and acceptance and respect as a free democratic society that respects life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as One Nation, Under God, Indivisible!


Diversity is fine in society. Men and women will always find ways to help and understand each other in a society that is free. American children must be taught the ideals of America. The ideals of America were not born of diversity, but of unity.

Diversity breeds disunity. There should never be an African-American, an Asian-American, and a Latino etc. If you were born in America, then you are American. Be American! If you legally immigrated to America and took your Oath of Allegiance to this free society, then you are no longer German, or French, or Italian, or Irish. You are an American. Be American!

Let us see our classrooms go back to teaching a decent core curriculum, geared toward promoting American heritage and history. The rest of the world can take care of its own cultures and societies.

The history of diversity in America’s classrooms is one of failure and confusion. It is time to put the American train back on its track. Ms. Lee, America needs unity and direction, not diversity and division.
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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 06:48 PM 12/05/06 (CST)
Glad to see I am in good company here.

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