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T-Bone
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 10:52 AM 08/01/06 (CST)
i do the improved clinch knot ussually but sometimes it doesnt work. what the strongest knot there is and how do you do it????????



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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 10:56 AM 08/01/06 (CST)
so when do you announce the winners did i already win because im the only one that s doing the essay?



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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 10:59 AM 08/01/06 (CST)
You need to understand that a good knot is a strong knot. The line improperly tied can be a weak spot that snaps.So a knot that holds up is a good thing. The other aspect is what are you tieing on?
A Rappala for exapmple needs a loop knot of some sort so the bait travels throught the water properly. to sinch the line down might make it go to 1 side or the other in otherwards it is not swimming correctly. My hair jig for exaple need a loop knot so it can work as you lift or drop. To sinch the line down on the eye would steel it's ability to move like it does. Thin line helps too ,because too thick of line will act like a cable on it-too stiff.






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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 11:30 AM 08/01/06 (CST)
T-Bone,

I would appreciate you not adding so many question marks and/or exclaimation points in your topics. Also would appreciate you replying to posts rather then starting new topics all the time. The forums will get very cluttered if you keep doing this. You have started 4 or 5 topics on the essay contest. All of those could have been a reply to any of the other posts on the same topic. What happens is when we get 20 new topics all on the same thing, it gets very hard for others to find stuff they are looking for.

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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 11:30 AM 08/01/06 (CST)
This post could have been a reply to the original topic in the articles forum...



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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 09:36 PM 08/01/06 (CST)
I have a hard enough time tying on a rapala. Better get practicing if I'm going to be using the same knot for CK's jigs.




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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 08:31 AM 08/02/06 (CST)
Well ,once we get good ice that can be drived on we will have a clinic. I'd even run a shuttle if others did not have a 4 wheeler. The older I get the easier I like it.Play a little smarter is the key.

I'll show you all of my tricks & explain to you why should do it this way or that. I see so many guy's on the ice that do not have a clue as to lifting a crappie or gill. It's amazing how they can not get over no bait. They come back 2-3-4 times to reverify.No bait huh? Nope,just hair & a hook I say. Anyone of them that can not take it anymore will succom to it after seeing fish after fish after fish,unanswered. Either they get mad & leave or come over & say O.K. how much are they? Now I got em.It takes a minnow guy so much longer just getting down the hole.
Think about it,when your ice fishing with a cork & it moves a little you say oooo livily minnow. It could have been a crappie sucking in the minnow only it felt the tension & spit it out.
Where as the spring moves I know he's on & I'm a rearin!
Working the water column is another advantage.
I'll get into more,but I know 1 thing for sure they did not start calling me CrappieKeith until I went out into the open so they could see the hurt I put to them.
Those little hair jigs I tie & the method that I learned took practice to get all of the kinks out.
I mostly use 1 hole & yet I consistantly out fish everyone ,except the jig&spring guys. I'd pay anyone 100 bucks if they beat me with a minnow on Bill Horn ,2 holes even.
Yup they might get 2 right off the bat if they hitting fast ,but once he gets both lines up ,he's got to rebait & wait for it to sink.
I'm next to him going bam,bam,bam,. I reel it in ,pop the hook & drop the hook back down the hole. My second hole is for tossing the smaller ones back.
You'll see!!!!!!!!!
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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 09:45 AM 08/02/06 (CST)
I have got plans to get out this winter to give your jigs a good honest try. I played with them a little this summer but they couldn't out fish a small jig and half a leech. This winter I plan to go after some gills and Mille Lacs perch to see if I can get them with no meat. The theory is sound so I think it should work.


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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 10:53 AM 08/02/06 (CST)
Not being mean here nofish,but you are one of those guy's.you do not know why & when they need to come out for use.

When the water warms enough in the spring these crapps will hit a real minnow which is larger then the fry that they targeted a few short weeks prior to getting active when the jig was getting them & the minnow wasn't. When a fish is active you can put just about put anything in that bigger size range & it's devoured.
The key here is maybe a cold front slips in and they will not hit that bigger minnow,because the feeding window just got small. They still eat so the 80th oz. will get one everytime. Now if you were in the boat next to me it would not take long & you'd shout ,hey what are you useing?It happens to me all the time,no kidding.

Come winter we will see aggresive fish until January then they get finicki & that gets worse until the late ice time when new oxygen is dumped into the lake via snow melt. The ice lifts as it wants to float which in turn pulls the weeds loose which exposes small food items. Blood worms and other micro oragisims.I've seen clouds of this on my FL-8.
So early ice & late ice the action is good with about any bait,but when they slow down due to no oxygen from the thick snow covered ice the jig will get you limits when no one else can get hardly 1.
Bill Horn Bay on BS is a prime example. Ask anyone who goes out there.

Last year I was out there. On the way I ran into Ron Fitzel who was in the narrows off of Maxwell or Floe's Island,anyway he was not doing much,I said come on over. Well we fished & I showed him a thing or 2. A few days later my boss comes to me & says that Fitzel said that there was only 1 guy on the whole lake getting crappies& your the guy.
He was out the winter before with his boy. I went over to see how he was doing. The boy who was in his 30's said look at my slab.It was a nice 13" slab so I said nice fish then I showed him my bucket. On top was a 15"er that covered the top,then I rolled the fish in it & they both came unglued as they were all like that. I've never seen a jaw drop so fast on those 2.
I also have to say that live bait is the only way on some lakes, but most all lakes I fish the jig works as good or better. I also have to say that when I first started with it I sucked.
I simply did not know how to work it ,tie it on .There was so much to learn & through trial & error & keeping a close eye to the reaction of the fish I've got her down.

Not to beat on TapTapTap & Woodtick,but they both strapped meat on that on day & until they got rid of it & then worked the lift they were fruitless. Once the switched with some direction it was about 5-10 minutes and both Tap & Woodtick had a slabs on the ice.

I'll be doing a few clinics this winter to teach you guys the how too's.
anyone who is avid will give me this complimentwhich I take very seriously. "YOU HAVE CHANGED MY LIFE"!






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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 11:38 AM 08/02/06 (CST)
You sure like to pat yourself on the back about this jig don't you. smile smiley (just giving you a hard time)

Why do you think that I am one of those guys anyways? Just becuase I don't have the time to devote to fishing.

If I am heading out looking for panfish i will usually bring a variety of baits depending on time of year. I will start with the bait I think has the best chance first, then I let the fish tell me what they want. If I am not catching anything with one bait I switch it up. If I know fish are there but they are not biting then I go small. As small as I can get away with this is where your jig comes into play. This isn't revolutionary by any means, it is as basic as it gets.

Its no secret that when fish have a tight lip down sizing is the way to go, along with matching bait to what the fish are currently feeding on. If I was out after finicky crappie the last thing i would be using is a minnow. Same holds true for really any panfish. I target gills and perch alot more then crappie just becuase the lakes I go to hold better populations of both.

While on Mille Lacs fishing perch last year it was clear that the only way you would catch a good number of fish is by matching your bait to what the perch were eating, which was some sort of insect hatch at the time. Once bait was changed to match the size, shape and color of the hatch, fish could more easily be caught in good numbers. When your jig matches the forage fish are currently feeding on I will be the first to drop it in the hole, but if something else i have matches better then thats what I will be using. And I don't see any fault in that logic.

I am some what handicapped in the winter becuase I don't have a flasher, so all my info is gathered by what I feel on the line and by just past experience in the area. Also if I catch a fish I plan on keeping I can learn a lot by cleaning the fish and see what they are eating.

You may shun this strategy for fishing and label it as nonsense but there is more then one way to skin a cat. On your home lake I am sure you don't need to bring a variety of baits becasue you have the time invested over the years to know exactly what will work at each time of year. At some point I will get to that point but now when I get to the lake it takes a little while for me to dial in what the fish want at that time.


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