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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 07:37 AM 07/07/06 (CST)
I found this article and it kind of ticked me off. The fact that there are no markers to help fishermen know weather they are breaking the so called "law" is a joke. If the Red Lake DNR wants to just take peoples boats, they can. I think that the burden of proof should be on the Red Lake DNR to show that this person was actually on Reservation Property. Otherwise, they can say anything they want and get your boat out of the deal. What a bunch of crap...

http://www.unioneagle.com/2006/July/6mueller.html








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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 08:28 AM 07/07/06 (CST)
Nice post Bigbite,I am outraged from it for sure.Something has to be done,for me.I'll just not go there.






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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 05:43 PM 07/15/06 (CST)
I heard a guy last winter landed his plane on the ice and they confiscated that too. It's not right. I hope the state goes after them.
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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 10:58 AM 07/18/06 (CST)
Because Red Lake is a "sovereign" nation, it will end up going to the Feds rather than the state when the guy tries to get his stuff back I think. By then they'll have sold his boat to some tribe member, and he'll never see it again anyway.

It's just plain stupid that they don't have buoys marking the point that you can't cross before they take your boat. Also, they should be required to warn you once also since nothing is marked. I wonder if they'd confiscate a DNR employees work boat etc if they went over the line, since they're above and beyond the state.



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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 03:49 PM 07/18/06 (CST)
The tribe wants us to give them money to police their own.What a croak of huewy!
You can bet your rights are out the window when it comes to being on Red Lake Res.






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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 08:42 AM 10/20/06 (CST)
Well here is what happened.
Princeton man convicted in Red Lake case; will appeal

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:59 PM EDT




By Joe Albert Staff Writer

Princeton, Minn. - The case of a Princeton man who, along with his son-in-law, had his fishing equipment seized in May after crossing onto tribal waters of Red Lake has taken a new turn.

During an appearance last Thursday in Red Lake Tribal Court, Jerry Mueller pleaded not guilty, declined an offer to settle for $250, and was convicted of trespassing. He plans to appeal the ruling.

His son-in-law, who owned the boat and the majority of the equipment that was repossessed, agreed to pay $500 ($200 fine and $300 storage fee) and to write a letter to the tribe admitting to and apologizing for trespassing, Mueller said.




The tribe also released the boat and other equipment that belongs to Mueller's son-in-law.

Mueller is still intent on trying to test in federal court the tribe's ownership of a vast portion of Red Lake.

'Settling isn't going to solve any problems here,' said Mueller, who didn't have an attorney. 'I'm going to do my very best to take this to federal court,' so that other anglers don't find themselves in a similar situation.

Mueller and his son-in-law were fishing on Upper Red Lake on May 28, when, he says, they accidentally drifted into tribal waters. Before that happened, a Bagley man had questioned the tribe's ownership of its portion of Red Lake in a letter to Red Lake Tribal Chairman Floyd Jourdain.

The letter and Mueller's arrest sparked controversy about who owns the lake.

The state should step in on behalf of Mueller and demand the tribe give him his equipment back, said Doug Meyenburg Jr., president of Proper Economic Resource Management.

PERM remains interested in the case and is deciding how much time and money to invest in it. The group will look at the merits of Mueller's case, and is awaiting information pertaining to tribal ownership from the state Attorney General's office, he said.

'We have to look into it deeper before we make a jump of any kind - financially, chances of winning, that kind of thing,' Meyenburg said. 'It's not a cheap undertaking by any means.'

Mueller said he's trying to determine if his case has enough standing to get the case into federal court. Before that could happen, he must appeal his case in tribal court.

Mueller was fined $1,300 for the incident - $500 for trespassing, $600 for the three walleyes he was transporting, and $200 for storage of his equipment.

'If we have enough standing - if we assume the federal courts will allow us to appeal this - then we are going to go forward,' Mueller said.

Mueller said he doesn't have the money to try to bring the case to federal court, or for an attorney. A 'Jerry Mueller' legal fund has been set up at the First National Bank of Milaca.



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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 01:47 PM 10/20/06 (CST)
Declining an offer of $250 settlement, AND getting your equipment back seems nuts. I'd pay the $250..and **THEN** use the tools available. From what I remember there aren't any "border" markings where supposed "ownership" of the lake is marked so they can't enforce trespassing laws. Every state's trespassing laws specifically state that there has to be visible marking/signs, and without the buoy's marking the tribes "territory" there is none.

While tribal law is sovereign from other law, this whole thing is stupid. Not marking the areas, almost seems like they expect trespassing to become a source of income to them.

By the way.. $600 for 3 walleye? I know the lake was just reopened.. but damn that's steep.

I'm not racist and have many native american friends, but maybe Red Lake needs to print their own currency and not use the US $$ if they're going to pull stunts like this. Try living without Government aid if you're going to play this game.



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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 01:49 PM 10/20/06 (CST)
They are a sovereign nation they decide the rules, like when and if you get your boat or plane back.......




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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 01:54 PM 10/20/06 (CST)
I think the same way.So they want their cake & eat it too.
I've spent some time reading through their site & they are anti white.
Is it not racial discrimination.They can claim it why not us?



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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 12:47 PM 09/17/11 (CST)
Well maybe people shouldn't go that far out. Stay clear, and if you want to fish that close to the reservation line. Bring a GPS. Don't be one of these stupid people too have your stuff seized or to pay a fine. You get what you get and don't throw a fit! I'd never go that close, that's asking for trouble.
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