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Tbuckets41
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Daily Subscription Msg 1 Posted: 08:55 PM 05/11/06 (CST)
I can catch hammer handles all day on Minnetonka with Spinner Baits but rarely land a Northern above 26 or 27 inches and that would be huge compared to the norm. What do you guys prefer for catching the BIG ones?


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Daily Subscription Msg 2 Posted: 11:24 PM 05/11/06 (CST)
My new favorite large Pike lure as of last year is the Rapala X-rap. Caught my first 38 inch Pike ever with one, and for once I didn't catch any of them 12 inch pike like I had all the other years of fishing. My best color is a black top/white body with red tail and red blood spot under the eye. My color is the top one on this picture of them. I love fishing this slash bait, I even throw it into the 2 dams I fish at on the out-flow side and never snag. Got a couple nice walleye (st louis river, I won't eat) also with it.

By the way, this year they've come out with a X-rap that's about an inch and half smaller than the original. This version is sub-titled the XR-8 and is probably a better walleye lure than the original.

Still will throw in-line sinners like Mepps also.


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Daily Subscription Msg 3 Posted: 11:46 PM 05/11/06 (CST)
I've tried the New X-raps with limited succes I like the old school Rapalas give me a #11 Silver Shad..........

It's not a lure but Sucker minnows work best for me.


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Daily Subscription Msg 4 Posted: 01:35 AM 05/12/06 (CST)
I haven't fished much with live bait since the late 80's fishing with my grandparents. Back then I just put a minnow on a colored jig and put a bobber on the line. I hate to remember the knots I tied back then, not knowing any better, and hadn't been taught. Not till Grandpa died and I got a few fishing magazines (wish I knew where they went now) did I learn a couple knots.


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Daily Subscription Msg 5 Posted: 01:10 PM 05/12/06 (CST)
Hey TBUCKETS41 --

This is a question all esox enthusiasts think about quite a bit. There is 1 CRITICAL factor in catching BIG pike(SAY 10-25 pounds)--they must actually be there in fishable numbers to have a chance of connecting.Most guys don't catch pike of that size because they are not in the watersheds they are fishing--or are in such small numbers that the odds of contact are very small. That being said though-there are many great lures--but the ones to choose will depend greatly on variables at the time of fishing
If fish of the size being sought are in the watershed then success rates are primarily dependent on 2 things. One is the size of fish you want to target and the second is weather patterns, (an underlying major consideration is the food species available in the system you are fishing). I am assuming you want to catch the largest pike possible for the time of year and system you are fishing.

If you are willing to settle for small pike/northern (say 1-5 pounds) then you can never go wrong with the main weed patterns. There are ALWAYS pike in that range in the weed beds.

There are A LOT of lure recommendations out there. The thing to remember is the weather pattern. As an example--a fast moving in line spinner(say a mepps, etc.) is not normally the best choice after a cold front has closed a northerns strike zone to 5 inches from its nose.

So, as follows is a thumb nail sketch of lure recommendations--

1. STABLE WEATHER PATTERNS--fish are active and seeking food to eat. The "strike zone" may be 2-3 feet , or anything the fish can see. In this case it makes sense to cover water quickly. Use in line spinners (Mepps Spinners and Windells Pike Harrassers are proven producers). The second really good option is spinner baits. (this would be safety pin type). Safety pin type spinners give you the abiity to fish in heavy weeds/brush as well as fishing water depts from the surface down to around 15 feet if it is being slow rolled. A spinner bait allows you to fish many different water types, cover types, and depths , making it the most versatle lure in your possesion in my estimation. As a side (Rapala Rattle Rap. Lewis Rattle Traps, etc. are a great alternative in this weather pattern). The idea though is that the pike are aggressive and will come after a lure. So use high percentage lures like the ones mentioned and try to put it in alot of strike zones during the day--move fast.

2. UNSTABLE WEATHER. This is a series of storms,then calm days, etc, (anything that creates disruption). This means fish have a smaller stike zone and are less inclined to chase a bait. Good options are spoons that can be retrieved at a stop and go retrieve. They can also be fished at many different depths. All spoons are not created equal and have VERY different retrieves. The standard Daredevle returns in about a 3-6 inch rotating circle with 2 jogs one way and then a rotating jog to return to the start.. The Husky Devle returns in around 2 foot wide swaths turning back and forth. Pike will sometimes eat food that is huge in comparison to their body--some lures that seem way to big are often just right at other times a small 3 inch curl tail grub out produces every lure you have--it is matching the size of the prey they are targeting on. That is a good starting place for referencing bait sizes--match the size of what they are eating. In addition, spoons can be allowed to fall back on the fish as they follow which is A KEY TRIGGER FOR A FOLLOWING FISH. A second good option in this case is a minnow bait-(personal favorite in this circumstance would be a Jointed Rapala or suspending minnow bait like a Rapala Husky Jerk or Smithwick Suspending Rogue). This style of bait can be fished in a slower stop and go style retrieve which will trigger more strikes).


3.COLD FRONTS. This is an option to avoid if you can--however , sometimes you can't. High percentage cold front options include a jig (personal favorite is a 5" curl trail), small bulldawg lure, and the number one option is obviously live bait. A high percentage choice for larger pike is a 5" minnow/sucker. Normally this would be a little small for bigger pike but post cold front means to scale down. The key to remember is that the fish normally ARE NOT chasing bait and you must put your bait/lure in their face and keep it there to be successful. They are normally NOT going to come out and chase bait like they will at other times--you must put it where they are and keep it there. In post cold front conditions it is also helpful to remember to FISH SLOW and to fish smaller baits in darker colors at the highest percentage spots. This means focusing on weed bed inside turns, deep weed lines adjacent to deep water, and points. I recall using this pattern after a cold front on a late June day a few years back. I put 37 pike in the boat that weighed from 2-15 pounds each. This was on a heavily fished lake in central Wisconsin. My buddy used fishing techniques like the ones listed under stable weather patterns and only put 3 small pike in the boat that day.I consider him to probably be a better angler than me but I understood the pattern to pursue after the cold front and he used techniques that kept the lure moving to fast and therefore out of the strike zone that day. Just slight modifications to adapt to the weather pattern but it made a big difference.

Hope this gets the old creative juices flowing---first fish of that quality must be there--but if they are then the guidelines give you a good place to start working on unraveling the pike puzzle for that day.




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Daily Subscription Msg 6 Posted: 02:11 AM 05/13/06 (CST)
Hey Fisher,which small lake in Central WI?I just happen to live in Cent.WI.One of the best Big pike lures we have had success with is the larger plastic paddle tails and the Banjo Minnow type baits,They've been working good on the Rivers.
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Daily Subscription Msg 7 Posted: 09:39 AM 05/15/06 (CST)
Hey Bob Musky--

I would say something like "Go Pack" but on a Minnesota site that might be akin to a death wish!

To answer your question--the specific lake this happened on was Cornell Lake. It is a little (maybe 250-300 acre I would guess) lake about 15 miles northeast of Chippewa Falls. Between Bloomer and Cornell if you look on a map.

But have had similar stories on Island/Chain/McCann chain and most all the flowages formed by the Chippewa River.

What you said about the plastic paddle tails and banjo's rings true. An option I have gone to in that genre with good success is a 6 to 7 1/2 inch sluggo. You can do a "walk the dog" with it underwater and then let it settle in and sink like a dying baitfish. If you have a follower they just can't keep from snapping it up as it falls back in their face.

Have you guys been fishing Petenwell? Or Big Eau Pleine or Dubay? Have not hit them in a while and was wondering how the fishery was there the last year or two.

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Daily Subscription Msg 8 Posted: 11:42 AM 05/15/06 (CST)

I was provoked.. had to post this again.. back to big Pike lures.


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Daily Subscription Msg 9 Posted: 01:57 PM 05/15/06 (CST)
It all depends on the water and conditions. When I go for pike it is hot. I wait until the walleyes get tough come mid summer. That's when I go to the river & get into the logans. they run 4-8 feet deep. I use top water baits like buzz or zara spook. We get into some bigger pike,Rick got a 40"er that weighed 20lbs.

A 1oz.elm leaf spinner with a sucker on the end of it works too. I've caught some big pike on a texas or carolina rig with plastic crawler working shallow shelfs off of deep water. I have 1 lake that the northern loves 15" walleyes.I have seen more than a few times were I am reeling in a small eye and a big pike will take it and give me a battle.You know they are big when there is only 3 " of walleye sticking out both sides of his mouth.

Keep in mind that the body of water has to have big ones to get big ones.
I'd look at the lakes history ,maybe gill net surveys by the DNR could help you. I like the Mississippi as it has monsters in all spieces of fish.

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Daily Subscription Msg 10 Posted: 08:41 AM 05/16/06 (CST)
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